Part II: Laurier

This is the case in the above video. Before and immediately after.

Dee, I am preparing a full report on the sterilization of the needle for you. My answer takes a little longer to arrive.
I asked one of my clients a full analysis of the needle after use it. She is a clinical analyst who works in a lab and she has agreed to do a culture for us. The needle has been sterilized before the session, has since been disinfected and placed in a sterile container that she has been. She explained to me that our fears are unfounded and that the needle can be reused in the same person.

Hi Barbara,

Here is the picture of the faucet

Oh, Jossie you don’t have to go through all this trouble.

Oh Dee, actually I’m just going to do what I always do, my client will do the rest. She is one of my most cherished clients, so I offered her the chance to be treated with the insulated needle Laurier. I spoke to her of the procedure that we follow and she offered to do a culture on the needle that I have used. I took the opportunity to request a fast and safe solution to sterilize needles before reuse. She needs to know the material used for insulation. With this data, she will explore the fastest and safest solution.

Mike R, would it be very costed to replace the black tape for a fine paper which remained attached to all edges of the white platform? The technician would just have to tear the paper with the tweezers and take the needle. This would maintain the sterility you offer for the other needles, and so one of the disadvantages would disappear. :slight_smile:

Josefa, You are amazing!!! I have been privately begging Mike R. to find a solution to the individual packaging. Having been frustrated at the retrieval and the fact that an opened package (the box) results in the contents not considered sterile after 24 hours, your statement could possibly be the solution! If that fine paper were tacky, then the needles could be removed one at a time by peeling back the paper, (or slicing through the needles individual cover) exposing one at a time to the environment.

Josefa, she asks me to divulge the very key to why the Probes work so well. That is a trade secret that will never be revealed.

Sterilization procedures in this country are very specfic to the minimum time and temps. required by either dry heat or autoclave. I can promise you that you will not find anyone here willing to circumvent those parameters, and indeed by law and association rules they cannot.

I can say without reservation, they will withstand those temps with no problem whatsoever.

I understand, Mike, and I would never ask you to disclose this secret.
For me it is enough to know that the insulation can withstand long hours of work without suffering the slightest damage. And I’m going to go away, sometimes I have to change a needle not insulated in the middle of a long session because I can not continue to work , even cleaning it, without compromising the client’s skin. This did not happen with yours, I reused dozens of times myself and each time I start working, I have the feeling that I’m debuting the needle.

It’s a good time to report in and say that I stripped a woman’s underarms a couple days ago using a size 4 Laurier probe. The probe is indeed hearty. Also, I did work on a man’s beard, toughest hair possible, and he reported that the healing was unremarkable, very good, very nice! I hate to discard the probe, but I do, as I am not into doing the several steps I must do to re-sterilize these wonderful probes. I reserve Laurier probes for doing appointments that last two hours or more, then I don’t feel so wasteful with discarding them.

Thanks Barbara.
We must all contribute to this extraordinary needle has the rightful place in the market. Not all manufacturers have the courage to expose his product to all kinds of criticism in a public forum. Only someone who is very sure of the quality of the products he makes would be so brave.
Mike R has been able to hear and meet all our requests to improve, if possible, the issues surrounding the packaging of needles.

I believe in what I see, and what I see is a skin that suffers fewer side effects. The thicker the hair I have to remove more surprised me the IPB. Share the good things enriches us all and Electrolysis wins place it deserves.

You know I appreciate the work you do regarding health and safety in our work, and I will help you in any way possible. We do not always know how to recognize the hard work means. After all, this benefits us all again.

Look at this case, who would believe that this area has received Electrolysis, a couple of days ago?

I was discussing the IBP with Margaret this afternoon. She seemed very pleased with the effectiveness of treatment and especially the complete lack of surface skin effects when using it. Like so many of you, it has now become one of several different tools in her electrolysis toolbox. It’s certainly been a blessing for me.

Indeed, Caith, we have made a real discovery…
… and think that I refused to try the needles. Luckily, Michael insisted on it. Do you understand now why I adore this man?

I can say that almost two months after having my fingers treated (second clearance), there’s barely any hyperpigmentation. You have to look EXTREMELY close and be as familiar with my fingers as the owner to think anything had been done to them!

Lastly, I did fall asleep during my treatment with the Laurier needles! My electrologist’s office is dimly lit and so cosy and the treatment was comfortable. :slight_smile:

The Laurier IBP is still proving to be the best I have ever used.
Unfortunately, because of its packaging, I use it on very few people.
It has to be sterilized prior to using also. It is a drag. Too bad.
I love this probe.

We had considered removing the tape stripe from the tray mold and sealing a cover of some sort, either paper or clear plastic, bonded to the insert. The problem that presents is that the tray is molded with polystyrene and would not withstand autoclave temps. To change it to a thermoplastic capable of those requirements would skyrocket the cost of the tray.

Avoiding a price increase was always important to my father (and after 40 years its become a matter of principle.)

The thing is…when using the autoclave the items must have the steam reach them to be sterile. An item that is surrounded by plastic (or glass) will not be sterile. Items in the autoclave must be wrapped or enclosed in paper.

I’m thinking that the “other” needles have been irradiated…or something like that. I don’t know what that is…

Well to comply with most laws, heat sterilization is my only option. Even the AEA defines sterilization as dry heat or autoclave.

Regarding the AEA ICS: Sterilization with dry heat and autoclave are the safe and effective forms of sterilization appropriate for the electrologist to use in their practice. The standards are written for the electrologist to use in their practice. They do not refer to the methods available for PRE-STERILIZED DISPOSABLE items, the refer to IN-OFFICE sterilization.

Here is a journal article about pre-sterilized disposable items. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC480158/pdf/jclinpath00060-0059.pdf Please note that they indicate the importance of using a high standard for packaging pre-sterilized items.

This company provides contract sterilization services: http://www.isomedix.com/ http://www.isomedix.com/Markets/Medical/

Unfortunatly that does not change state laws, many of which demand they be heat sterilized. A true heat sterilized product remains my only option for our customers.

There are many proven forms of sterilization, gamma, gas, and even light. All are proven, but not recognized by many state’s laws.

AFAIK, the other brands of probes are not heat sterilized either. From a manufactoring view, the easiest way to go should be gamma ray because this can be done with already packaged material.