Out of control bikini line :) - Pic

Hi everyone,

Being brave and attaching a photo of my wild and unruly bikini line …
What do you think? Would it be best to attempt laser on this first and a tidy up of electrolysis or just straight electrolysis? The hair is dark and coarse but is it coarse enough?

I struggle with very dry skin and shaving this area in particular just roughs all my skin up and makes it an ugly nightmare to expose in togs.

The laser would be an elos diode laser (synergon). The downside of the electrolysis is that most of the beauty therapists around here prefer to only work on rogue lip and chin hairs and dont really want to do hour long sessions or more on areas. Im not sure they could clear enough hair fast enough for me.

Im going to go for a consult with the laser ladies but thought I would run it past you guys first.

Thanks :slight_smile:

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Yes, it’s coarse enough. It should be pretty effective. I say do it! :smiley:

Laser!

Thanks :slight_smile:

Just to offer more detail, electrolysis can certainly affect these hairs, we’ve doing bikini lines for decades before laser came on the scene, but you want an electrologist that can do more than a quarter size area in an hour. People want the hair off as fast as possible, no matter what the area. One of the biggest complaints I hear through private messages is the despair that comes with electrologists that are clearing an area too slow. The client despairs because they see that it will take ‘forever’ to get the visible hair off. The client needs hope. They need to think they are going forward fast enough to lift their mood and to gain control of a very depressing situation. Laser offers that hope for speediness.

Electrolysis offers that hope, too. There are strategies to speed this up, but outlining those strategies here on the open forum only starts in fighting and sniping between colleagues, so I will keep my mouth shut.

Keep in mind, that speed doesn’t imply you will be done any sooner than 9- 18 months. I like to clear and wait, clear and wait, clear and wait, clear and wait until there are no more hairs to clear. If a client is devoted to a plan that spans at least 18 months worth, they will see success.

Good luck to you. I recommended laser hair reduction, because this is actually an area that responds well and one is on the table for less time. If we had more electrologists all over the world that employed strategies that speeded this process along, electrolysis would be absolutely great, too. I actually send my electrolysis clients a laser specialist for cases like this as it free’s up my time to devote to light colored hairs and dark thin hairs that laser typically does not see.

Ok … I finally got around to having my first laser session this morning on my bikini line. It was with an Elos machine. Didnt hurt at all (??) I definitely didnt need the cooling device she gave me to hold and use as required. The lady said she was getting good readings on the machine. Now that Im at home the area isnt even red … I would have thought it would be quite a painful area to treat especially under and in the leg joint place. And I was expecting a lot of redness for hours after. Going back in 8 weeks time. Im not sure of what levels she used for anything but do you think it wasnt up high enough if I didnt really feel it?

Its funny Dee, it’s not often I think I should disagree with you and even now I’m not sure. I look at the picture, and my first thought, is, that area doesnt look that dense, and it shouldnt take more than an hour or two to clear it maybe 3 on the outside…Now maybe some finer hair doesnt show up in the picture, so I could be wrong. Unless laser shows spectacular results in such an area, meh maybe I’m just really sour and unoptomistic on laser. I think I’d go with the sure thing.

@OP if you werent feeling it all, then that does give me concerns for its intensity and effectiveness, yes.I had laser on my face and neck, and i fet it very very much.

Seana

Elos isn’t a laser so no surprise you didn’t feel any pain. I doubt you’ll see results either. Laser on the bikini line hurts.

If I could go back in time, I would do electrolysis. Electrolysis improves the condition of the skin, laser does not.

Elos isnt a laser??? Really? This is the guff that Waxnlaser have on their website:

  1. QUALITY - Waxnlaser will use the best technology and safest equipment available in the world. Our Elos Diode lasers are true lasers (not IPL, VPL or SPL machines being called “lasers” when they aren’t lasers at all). The diode laser is designed specifically for highly targeted hair removal and is suitable for the widest variety of skin and hair colours possible. The equipment has built in skin temperature monitoring technology and software that measures the result of every pulse providing feedback to the operator and allowing stronger pulses (more effective) with a very low risk of burning. Operating a laser/IPL machine without skin temperature monitoring is like driving a car without a speedometer, sure you can drive OK but it’s harder to avoid speeding tickets (burning) or going too slow (under treating).

I did notice last night that there was a bit of redness at the base of each hair. I will be really annoyed if their machine isnt a laser. They are certainly saying it is!

Early ELOS achines have been (really) powerful IPL devices + that strange RF-thing that will not work as advertized. It had the power to be as affective as the lasers at that time.

The new ELOS devices combine more or less the same RF-thing with a Laser. A collegue (mainly an electrologist) in my further vicinity owns such a machine.

As to the speed of electrolysis: by parallelisation all approaches could be equally fast. Which means two or three multi needle galvanic boxes together or the one and only multi needle blend box have the potential of doing - say - 20 hairs per minute. Regardless of the method working at such a speed is pretty exhausting, isn’t it?

Sorry Im a bit lost now … should I find another laser place or is the Elos ok?

Anyone??? Do I need to find another laser or should I stick with the Elos?

If it was me, I would find a real laser.

My initial searching was coming up with Elos as an IPL with RF. I think actually Elos refers to the RF part only and it seems that it is combined with a Diode more recently. You can search this board for old threads where it is discussed.

I’ve always recommended people go for an Alex or YAG laser… and one where the machine is known to give results when used at aggressive enough settings. I wouldn’t recommend any different now.

I so so wish I could have real laser on bikini especially back area :(.
I got for a brazilian wax every 3.5 weeks it lasts about 2 weeks then 1.5 weeks to grow back hate that stage.
Groupon Wowcher and livingsocial always have IPL offers I currently pay £12.50 for my wax which is cheap I’ve paid more than double and had terrible service the women I see now is great so price isn’t always best.
Anyways the offers are generally £49 for 6 x brazillian ipl sessions which would be £75 in waxes.
So IPL may not be as good at laser but I keep thinking even if it does minimal effect it reduce some and be cheaper than waxing for me on one of these offers.
Wish I had the money to do the real laser though but look at £300+ for that not in my pocket.

seems to be problems on the site again