opinions on LHR for male beard?

Initially I was very anti-LHR on face out of great fear for burns, scars, and patchiness. (Risk of potential laser burn on chest or legs is not that scary compared to face area that can scar permanently.)

I’m always struggling with razor burns and bumps on my neck and there are days where it’s really bad. Electrolysis for face gets solid praise, but it is very expensive to see any results. So, I’m contemplating the idea of laser on my neck (maybe even full beard)sometime down the road. But it seems that anywhere I turn to online for research, I only see negative experiences or complaints about male laser beard removal. Main complaints are lack of permanent results and patchiness. What are general opinions on LHR for male beards? (I think even on here the word is that it is very difficult to treat male beards with laser?)

Patchiness: you need a practitioner who knows what they are doing and knows to cover every inch of your beard. fast, sloppy work will always result in patchiness.

Permanent results: Your hair needs to be dark enough for the laser to target. That means black, not dark brown, ginger, blonde or any other colours your hair might grow in.
The other issue I think was how deep laser goes in comparison to how deep male facial hair sits. I’ve heard that the nd:yag might be better than some of the others at targeting deep lying hair.

I guess, if you want to try you may as well. Burns shouldn’t be a problem unless you have very dark skin or the wrong settings are used. Even the short term benefits of laser (e.g. having a hair free period) could be really beneficial for your razor burn and bump problems. It’d be at least relief.

You could take the money you would spend on laser and spent it on electrolysis only on a limited area that gives you the most problems (such as the base of the neck where PFB bumps commonly occur.) While you won’t have your whole beard removed this way, you will end up with permanent results (as long as you have a competent practitioner) where it matters most. You can always have that done and then save up more money to have another area done, and so on. Might take a long time to have your whole beard removed this way, but you will eventually get there.

I had laser on my beard and while it seemed to work well, after 2 1/2 years 95% of it came back. I regret not doing what I describe above instead.

Hi:

I agree with Vickie on this one from personal experience.

I started on laser and found that I had to switch to electrolysis afterwards since I did experience too much regrowth and it was very disheartening to put it mildly.

Electrolysis did the trick though and I don’t have to shave at all now. I really don’t have time for it anyways these days.

Alicia

I have to disagree with the above. I believe we’ve discussed Vickie’s laser treatments before and they were at lower settings. Thus permanent reduction wasn’t produced. Also, I don’t recall, but I believe she started electrolysis right after finishing laser, so it would really be impossible to tell that 95% “came back”.

anotherdude, laser on male facial hair is completely possible to do successfully without patchiness. The difficult part is finding a practitioner who’s had experience on this specific area and knows that it needs good overlapping and adjustment of settings for deeper hairs around the chin and lip areas. And of course, they need to not be afraid to be aggressive with settings. Proper overlapping is really the most important part on this area and the reason you read complaints. Most people go to whoever they find first and assume that the clinic will know what they’re doing. This is very far from the reality. Most clinics are not experienced and knowledgeable enough to treat this area.

So my answer would be if you have dark coarse dense growth and you are willing to look for a clinic that has a good machine and knows how to treat this specific area with proper overlapping, you should go for it. You should also expect to need somewhere around 8-12 treatments if you want almost complete removal and not just to get rid of the shadow. And I would recommend to pick a clinic that has a Yag laser in addition to others since it penetrates deeper and may be necessary for the stubborn chin and lip area.

Btw, read some recent posts by Edokid here. He started removal on this area a while back and is happy so far.

After 6 or 8 laser treatments (I can’t remember), I started electrolysis on the areas that the laser was doing almost nothing on (upper lip and some of the other muzzle area) and on some of the white hairs on the jawline. The laser left the neck hairless and almost completely free of shadow. I didn’t start electrolysis on the neck until after 2 years after the last laser treatment, when the hair quickly came back and looked and felt almost identical to before I started laser.

It took about 11 hours to do a first clearance on the neck, and that was after several partial clearances; I figure it would have taken 14-16 hours if I did a full neck clearance with electrolysis in one sitting, even after laser :cry:

In the interested of being fair and balanced, my facial hair is pretty extreme and awful to begin with, as someone here knows firsthand. Very high density, lots of distorted follicles, too many years of plucking, etc. Over 20 full clearances of the upper lip and there is still some hair there that keeps coming.

Yep I’ve had great results on my face but I’ve learned some things that might help others, as I’m not finished yet just took a break for summer. I’m about a skin type 3 so I always get treated with an alexandrite laser for other areas. My first several facial treatments (upper lip, neck, cheeks, chin, and also my sideburns on the side to make them very thin) were with an alex as well. The hair on my neck and cheeks would all shed, but on my upper lip and chin I’d have barely any shedding at all. I’d have to go back a few weeks later and have the area redone. Even after this, I’d still only get maybe 50% shedding total on my chin and upper lip if that. I have pictures when I went to Mexico and on my chin there’s about half of it that’s dark even after I shaved since that hair never shed.

At my next session, my technician used the ND:Yag on me and didn’t tell me until we were done. I was disappointed as I alwas thought alex was a better laser. After reading on here though I found out that ND:Yag can go the deepest of any laser, and works best on very dark coarse hair which is pretty much all a males face is. To my surprise, 2 weeks later, all the hair fell out, all my upper lip, chin everything.

Now the thing is, you can see from my signature, I’ve pretty much had 3 sessions with alex (plus 1 extra with alex on my upper lip and chin to try and get it to shed) and then I had 3 sessions with Yag. I haven’t done laser on my face now for close to 3 months as I wanted to enjoy the sun this summer. There’s a clear difference on my face. My neck hardly has any hair. Before shaving around my adam’s apple was hard and always left stubble, now its smooth when I shave. My cheeks are similar as well, I’d say there’s been a 50% reduction on both those areas and on my sideburns they are still only about 1/3rd as wide as they used to be. However, my upper lip and chin look unchanged, maybe a 10% reduction or so on my chin. After 3 sessions with yag I’d have hoped for a bit better results in that area but I think it’s just becaues they’ve had less treatments.

I also need to check my log, because when I first started, I’d get treated with the alexandrite, but then 4 weeks later only about 50% of the hair had shed, so I’d go back, do the whole area again, and then I’d get almost complete shedding (except for the upper lip chin area). Didn’t matter what settings were used, it always seemed like with the face, you have to do two session to get it all removed. So because of that, when I say I’ve done 6 sessions in total, I really only consider it more like 3, same with the 3 done with yag, I consider it more like 1 or 2 only.

I know people will argue that if you need to treat an area twice to get 100% shedding then the settings aren’t high enough, but I disagree for the face. I’ve treated underarms, full chest, forearms, etc all with the same settings and they’d have 100% shedding with 1 session. Face is definitely much harder to treat so either find someone with experience, or just take a chance.

One thing to note, if you find a place that has a good price and seems reputable and you do a treatment, if they do a patchy job on you, you won’t have any real permanent results from that one session. My first session I was so patchy, it was at another clinic so I switched. When the hair grows back you wouldn’t even know.

So doing all treatments with a Yag only is a good idea? How natural does a reduction look on the face?

I think it is, I mean the alex worked on my neck and cheeks but had no effect on my upper lip and chin. I redid those areas a few times once and still only got maybe 80% shedding. Reduction looks natural. There’s more hair on my upper lip and chin than cheeks and neck but doesn’t look weird or anything. Yag is only really good on very dark coarse hair, but on the face it shouldn’t matter since probably the darkest coarsest hair you’ll find would be on a guys beard.

We always treat faces with a Yag/Alex Combo do give the best results. With the New Elite MPX , we are able to treat with sequential pulsing YAG/ALEX or ALEX/YAG and get the desired results.

Vicky, are you saying that the hair grew back 2 years later? When did it start growing back? Did you have a 1-2 year hairfree period first?