Of Papilla and Anagen I "sing!"

Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
#1

We learn a lot indirectly from other fields, don’t we? Hair transplantation procedures continually improve techniques and consequently, by experimentation, uncover new secrets of the hair follicle.

The so-called "stem cell hair transplantation’ procedure points directly to our field and corroborates several theories that have been doubted (ridiculed) … for decades. Specifically, the incorrect suppositions that the papilla is singularly responsible for the follicle’s ability to generate a hair AND that hairs can only be removed in anagen phase.

Go on-line and research this yourself: "stem cell hair transplant.’ Watch the animated videos and "connect the dots.’ Surgeons are now removing only part of the follicle, containing stem cells, and leaving a portion of the follicle in-place. In most cases, both the dissected follicle and the remaining follicle regrow a hair. The dissected follicle has no papilla … and yet is able to grow a new hair. BINGO!!!

From this procedure it’s now a certainty that follicle stem cells, not "papilla only,’ are crucial to hair growth. In telogen, all the stem cells are still present … but "disconnected’ from the papilla. So, there it is! Versteh?

In 40-years of doing electrolysis, people have told me that "hairs can only be removed in anagen.’ Shit … I’ve been removing "hairs in telogen’ my entire career (and so has Josefa … who has been ridiculed about this), but now the science is in. The "anagen only’ and "papilla only’ theory are simply wrong.

One difficulty (perhaps) is the way the skin and follicle are usually depicted. Usually the epidermis is drawn gigantically too thick and, most importantly, drawings show only papillae that are associated with follicles. (I’ve done this too in my illustrations!)

However, this is not the case: you have billions of papillae and they lie just under the epidermis … BILLIONS of them (they "feed’ the epidermis). Maybe that’s why we think that papillae are associated with hair follicles ONLY. They’re not! Ummmm, that’s probably why the upper dermis is called "the papillary dermis?’ Dr. Bowman (Holland) … after tons of experimentation … told me he thought a dissected hair follicle "finds’ a new one!

At least consider the science and don’t hang on to ancient "superstitions.’

#2

Are there any available illustrations of correct follicle anatomy to compare them to the incorrect illustrations that are common in most texts? And let’s say most electrologists will start accepting this new understanding, but how will this knowledge affect their techniques to be able to treat telogen hair very efficiently?

#3

I’m working on filming actual hair follicles … I may have to “donate” a strip of my own scalp. I’ll do it, but don’t have a lot to spare. It’s really wonderful to see the real deal … not just illustrations.

Telogen hairs can be treated properly with any modality; it’s understanding the target area that makes the difference. I have one good illustration in my book … mostly focusing on the concept that the follicle is not an open tube.

#4

Brilliant work Michael, thank goodness someone is taking the time to do the research and getting the facts out there.
Will you share this on the electrolysis Facebook pages…

#5

Hey … sent you a PM at the moment.

Yes, Facebook. There will also be a new website (with the same name: electrologyNOW) that will have (free) writings that will go along with each video. My next video might be one that schools could use. In this case, the video will be (of course) visual … and the PDF will contain all the information and lists of terms … if schools decide to use the information.

Working on it. Up 'til now, I’ve only been fooling around with videos … and silly too. Time to start the “serious” junk.

#6

If in both cases, partial follicle donor and partial follicle left in place, a new hair grows, then it is because the progenitor cells traveling down to wrap the papilla have the capacity to regenerate a new hair by themselves, without the cells stem located in the bulge. Is that correct ?

Josefa said me that the reason why some electrologists don’t want to work in telogen is because they think there is not enough water in that phase for conductivity. What do you think ?

Do you think there is enough water in the target cells to achieve the destruction ?

the majority of my arm hair was in telogen, as was the hair on my french client’s belly and both get excellent results. Moreover in your photos we can see you works on telogen hair and you get amazing results.

So why this people insists electrolysis works only in anagen ?

#7

I think you’re right Adrien. Remember, nobody has THE FINAL ANSWER yet. Mother nature still has a LOT to teach us. There is yet no “science” that has all the answers and, really, that’s the exciting part.

#8

There is enough water in the cell matrix (the cells themselves consist to more that 90% of water anyway). But there seems to be a bit less of water in the matrix around telogen hairs. That is at least my assumption why killing a telogen hair often does not take less energy than killing a ripe anagen hair, although the volume we need to destroy should be smaller than during anagen.

BTW: a picture of (mice) hairs in various stages for hair growth. It has been posted 6 years ago in this forum (mhmm, time flies like an arrow…), and it is my main illustration when i explain my work to my clients.


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BTW: the picture also demonstrates that (and why) laser / ipl can indeed only affect anagen hairs.

So why this people insists electrolysis works only in anagen ?

Why do people insist that estrogens cause cancer although only synthetic estrogens do? (Who might be interested? Insurances?)

Why do people believe that spinach contains a lot of iron?

#9

“Why do people believe that spinach contains a lot of iron?”
Because they watched Popeye!!!
I couldn’t resist!
June x

#10

Re “Stem cells” and “Progenitor cells” - Adrien poses a good question because it makes mention of both. The latter is a more specialist cell that develops out of the pool of Stem cells.
Can I ask - is there any evidence of Stem cells being present above the AP?

I agree with Beate about moisture - most people are adequately hydrated (not all-eg elderly people as the body’s response to dehydration becomes diminished). In fact over-hydration is more of an immediate danger than under in ‘normal’ adults, I think.
The skin is very prone to dehydration locally and careful product choice can help to maintain the barrier function with some being capable of actively ‘steering’ moisture to the skin cells e.g. colloidal oatmeal (Aveeno for example) and Urea containing products.

Thanks for the thread Mike. Please join Hairshoot :))))))

#11

How do I join "Hairshoot?

Is this “open” or a “members only” group?

Will it make me crazy (well, more crazy)? I mean “toupee on the ceiling” kind of crazy?

#12

We’ll get you there Michael, its a great group.

#13

I was a graduate student at Tulane School of Public health, and one of my professors, an internationally acclaimed nutritionist, said the iron and spinach thing was a matter of reading the number wrong. So, spinach was claimed to provide more iron than it actually does.