I was just wondering if someone could tell me whats the aprox. number of hairs one can remove in one hour with thermolysis, and galvanic on the other side. I never asked my electrologist how many she can remove with galvanic that i m currently doing ( and hating it). I found new electrologist who does thermolysis but its a lot further, so i wanted all the facts before hand.
Although this question is answered all around the board, I will rehash it here.
Galvanic typically takes a minute per hair, but can take longer. This is why multi-probe systems were made. Even with a multi-probe unit, however, it is rare that one gets more than 100 hairs per hour in Galvanic. Sixty or fewer hairs per hour is typical. Since one can’t say how long it will take to treat a hair in Galvanic, it is hard to give a statistical limit in this modality.
In Blend 4 or 5 hairs per minute is pretty fast work, so 240 to 300 hairs per hour is a fast rate. Blend takes about 7 seconds per hair, and then there is insertion and epilation time. 7 to 8 hairs per minute is probably the statistical limit on Blend Electrolysis speed, so the speed limit on that is around 420 - 480 hairs per hour, but I don’t know anyone working that fast in Blend.
Thermolysis, on the other hand, can be done in milliseconds (when using the microflash or picoflash mode). The insertion takes longer than the treatment. The limit here is based on how fast the practitioner can move. That is why with thermolysis, speeds of 40 hairs per minute are not impossible. Of course that is about the statistical limit, so it is not something you will easily find (its like finding a pitcher with a 150 mile per hour fast ball)
Finding rates in the 10 to 20 hairs per minute, or 600 to 1200 hairs per hour range is what is fast in thermolysis. This is also why electrologists distinguish between what we call "Slow Thermolysis, and MicroFlash Thermolysis. In slow thermolysis, one is back down to 240 or 300 hairs per hour as being fast.
I know its answere thru the board, but i was leaving for work, and i had to call the new electrologist from there, so i didnt have time to search. thank you though, James.
I am reluctant to switch, because i like my current electrologist, but hate the result after doing it for 7 months. There was supposed to be a full clearance by now, no matter what. Because there wasnt, i am thinking that she can not know what hair to treat, and maybe the new weak, already treated hairs, are being left alone to get stronger again. I dont want to loose money, and one year from now look at myself and cry.
So i made an appointment for this saturday, my first thermolysis ever. I will know the difference, i think. If its faster then ill stick with the new one, wich is also the cheaper. If not, then onto another search. All i know is that if i stay with the galvanic, i wont be done anytime soon, especially as my electrologist claims that there is no way that upper lip can be done in one year. She said its minimum of 18 months, and from there it can take more time. That doesn`t make sense, even with galvanic.
I feel internally sad for any business that does not “modernize” or change with market demands because they lose bigtime, and so does the public they serve. It’s all unnecessary. The technology is there for the taking. Costs for updating would be recovered in no time for a skilled electrologist arming herself/himself with the best tools. This applies internationally, as well as in the United States of America, as we hear the horror stories that come out of other countries about so called electrolysis care.
Sanny, if your present electrologist knew how very little “pain” there would be in bringing it up to a higher level, clients would be satisfied sooner and they would refer friends, relatives and co-workers. Business would be very good. That translates into both the electrologist and her client gaining financially. The money side to all this for the client, as raised by sanny, is as important as getting the hair removed permanently.
Keep that search dog attitude, sanny. Hope this thermolysis electrologist works out for you. If she gets you cleared, then you could see her every 3-4 weeks after that, but she’ll have to be the final word on that.
Dee
I also dont understand why some businesses wont upgrade their equipment. It seems unfair. Come to think of it, they dont need to invest that much in this particular business, but they are paid 60 bucks per hour. I am not saying its an easy job, but its certainly better than mine, which is in ware house lifting 40 pound boxes. I had to take it so i can pay for electrolysis, and it was best i could find, as stay at home mom for so many years. They could at least update their mashines, so i dont have to spend all that money and time which i really dont have. On the other hand, why would they? Why would they clear a client for 500, when they can charge 2000 for slower process? At least thats the way it seems to be.
I will definitely post saturday when i come back from my first thermolysis. I cant wait. I think i got addicted to this particular kind of pain, or its something else? :)I`ve heard about people getting addicted to pain while tatooing and piercing. Can same happen with electrolysis?
People do seem to get “addicted” to electrolysis, but I think it has more to do with what my clients say to me; “That went so well, and the results are so good, how about clearing this next!”
“Hear-Hear” on the issue of elecs not updating their equipment. How can we make this happen?? Over here its $70 an hour with a cheap, circular light magnifiying lamp, so consider yourself lucky to be paying less.
Ah, but remember, it is not dollars per hour, but hairs per dollar. Better equipment. used well, equals faster hair removal, and thus, the price can be higher per hour, while actually being less per hair.
I must sandwhich James with a second “Hear-Hear” and add some special sauce of “true-true”… Today I was tested on my hairy journey when I realized that I now officially do not have enough money to pay for treatments with the usual cash and/or debit card. The buck literally stopped here. I was forced to break out the mighty blue chase card and saw visions of an impeccable credit history somehow going awry from, not gambling, or drinking, or drugs , or even overspending on nice clothes cuz I shop at Khols and Target, but from this bit we call electrolysis.“If that is the way to do it then that is the way it shall be done”(movie quote for any fellow Bowie Lovers from The Labyrinth. ) So onward and upward- I’ll keep doin it however I can.
Anyhow- point is, altho my heart felt like it dropped inside of me when I read my bank statement and I felt like I couldn’t breath for quite some time as I sat in silence, I will not give up the fight to feed the electrolysis fairy!! But I have squeezed 15 hours into 8 weeks averaging almost 2hrs a week so I hope I’m getting some clearance here soon cuz those 5 plus hr sessions I have to put on my Rambo hat for and it would be a bonus to spread them out now when lots of up front treatment time is necessary, like 2 hrs one day and 2.5hrs 2 days later AND not be treated for multiple hours when it is finally not needed as often after clearing. I need someone closeby to where I live to be able to do it this way and I can’t find them! I wish. I wish:( Gas money is killin me alongside these ventures as well. I’m going to invent a tiny mini-bus that runs on bio-fuel like corn oil or whatever and get a good electrologist in there with some good equip and take him/her on the road. How awesome would that be?
. You won’t see me giving up, though, not after coming this far. This is a part of my life now just as much as my school loans and credit card bills- I gotta pay it and get it done. Credit, cash, debit, or collected scrap metal, no one can stop me from this dream of clearing my pesky hairs!
That’s the Spirit!
Oh, did I mention that any diesel powered car can be fitted with a reserve tank and allow it to run on 100% discarded french fry grease from places like McDonalds (at least one would never be far from a fuel source) and drive for free? 
Better do it now before the government outlaws it. http://www.greasecar.com/
That is just the way i look at it. Another loan payment for which i have to have money. It sucks. And i am nowhere near done.
At the possible expense of sounding self promotional, did I mention that I offer clients many financing and payment plans? 
Funny thing is that the car I borrow from the ppl i live with is a Volkswagen Jetta. I’m gonna check that site out. I wonder if it really could be done in ohio’s climate and w/o ruining the car. I saw a great movie documentary about that sort of thing and some awesome new honda’s that were removed from the earth basically by the car co. themselves. I forget the name of it but very intriquing.
The product called “The Co-Pilot” takes all the guess work and forgetting out of the equation. When one would start the car in ohio in the winter, the car would be running on what ever fuel you bought from the gas station. Then, when the engine reached normal operating temperature, the co-pilot computer would switch to the wast oil in the researve tank, as the engine heat would assure that the oil was liquid and not a gummy solid. Later, when one is on the way home, one can switch manually back to the regular gas tank, or when one gets home, the co-pilot would supervise running the engine long enough to burn out all remaining oil, so that the car can start with petrol again. One must not let the car shut off on oil in a cold climate, as it would clog the fuel lines in the cold. People living in Arizona don’t have to worry about this problem.
The kits cost about $2000, but since one gets to drive for free, it pays for itself in a years or less. 