Hi Everybosy Peeps, not been on in ages. In fact I’ve been reluctant to post my experience on here, reason being others from here have treatments at the same place with the same person and have had good results, plus she was a recommendation from here. Well this is my situation, I’ve been visiting this Electrologist since the end of March this year (15 mins every week) for my chin area. No dark hairs, just blonde accelerated vellus ones. She has been using the blend method which has been great for my skin. She started off doing the hairs on my chin and then moved to the eyebrows just to fill up the mins in my slot. This is all very well, but when I get home, I still find hairs on my chin that she has missed. During the course of the year I noticed hairs on my upper lip and cheeks that I wanted doing, which she said if she could find some she would do, well the lips she has continued to do through the year, but she said my cheeks look normal and nothing to do there…I beg to differ. A couple of weeks ago I noticed long vellus pigmented hairs on my sideburns, running along my jawline and even on the neck below my ear (both sides). I mentioned this last week and she worked the area for a few mins. I asked if I should spend more time on the table to make up for the extra hair discovered. she told me that 15 mins was enough to do all she needed to do. Today I’ve looked in the mirror and can see loads, it looks like a shadow in certain lights. I’m beginning to wonder if I have a Hormone inbalance, which may very well be the case as I have other issues going on. I was actually hoping that I’d be able to keep the hair to a minimum while trying to balance my hormone. I am now wondering if that is possible if she can’t actually see what is bothering me. She only uses a beauty lamp halo visual thing. I’m getting increasingly frustrated and am beginning to wonder if I’m wasting my time and money. Thanks for reading…any thoughts???
Hi max. How have you been?
Hormone balance or not, electrolysis can treat all the hairs you desire to be gone.
It is all in the set up TO SEE those hairs. Positioning is extremely important and lighting is ultra important. Very rarely, do I do 15 minute appointments for the amount of hair you describe. I also tell my ladies that the goal is not to get everyone of the hundreds of thousands hairs present on a woman’s face, but rather to thin, thin, thin out the larger and longer hairs until they have the look they like. If she can’t see and can’t sit for longer appointments, then that is too bad and I don’t know what more I can say to comfort you.
Blend is fine - it’s a wonderful electrolysis modality, but my choice would be one of the more high tech forms of thermolysis, which would be very kind to your skin as well as you say blend is. I think what you have with your electrologist is a “SEEING” problem. So, what can you do about that? The best answer would be related to what the world of competition can do for the consumer. If you have the freedom of choice to see another electrologist down the street (do you?) who could see those hairs you want gone, you could say to your present electrologist that you like her personally, but you need to go to her colleague for further work because she can see the hairs that bother you. I think things would change for you and all consumers who need good electrolysis care. She would look into ways that she could see those types of hair structures if her business was declining. If there isn’t a competitive atmosphere, businesses don’t have to improve and thus, they have power over you. Frustrating stuff because it is easy to resolve were it not for human stubbornness and inflexibility to analyze and improve.
Hi Dee I’m good thanks apart from this dreaded hair situation, hope you are too! I totally believe that this is the case regarding her visuals, very frustrating for me and totally no help. I’ve exhausted all avenues, in short of getting a flight across the pond…this for me is a no no financially. I have no idea what my next move can be! :0(
If I were in your shoes, I wouldn’t be traveling either. My instincts tell me that there are great electrologists in the UK just like any place else on earth. Just to refresh me, how many have you tried out? Sorry if this is a redundant question, max.
Ha ha Dee, you sound so positive, and so did I at one time. I’ve tried 7, currently on my 8th.
You are on your 8th electrologist, and have given this one 15 minutes times however many appointments in 9 months?
You need to take a chill pill. Electrolysis works. Enjoy the journey.
15 mins every week in 9 mths, probably missed about 3 due to illness or the weather. I may be on my 8th Electrologist, but 8 in 10 years. 1 of these I did 10 mins weekly for a year and a half, and a couple I did hour appointments also weekly for several months. The others it took me a few sessions to realise I was getting plucked or over treated, have the scars to prove it too. I know it works Bryce, I have a friend who is proof of that…10 years, miles of travelling, time on the table and 8 electrologist is very frustrating, and not even one of those had good visual equipment. Sorry for sounding so down beat, but I don’t even want to go out anymore.
If you can find an electrologist that would be flexible enough to even want to try surgical loupes that UK surgeons or dentists wear when they do procedures or surgeries, could a group of you approach this open-minded electrologist and offer to pay for a good vision aid, with the idea that you will be given her services in exchange until the service equals the cost of your part in the loupe investment? (I’ve got to stop making these run on sentences!)
Hi Max,
I’m glad you wrote this. You should never be worried about reporting an experience just because it differs from other’s.
I don’t know if you had been keeping up with peace1’s posts but she had the same problem on the chin area.
I think the hormonal issue is important as that will effect treatment, especially if you continually have new hairs coming up all the time.
The problem, that you and I both well know, is that there are no decent electrologists in the London area except the ones that work here.
On a positive note, I’m sure the hairs she is treating are being killed, so I don’t think you’re wasting money. If there are particular hairs that are bothering you, have you tried pointing them out to her before the session? Sometimes I ask for her little mirror and show her some of the hairs I want removed.
And as Dee suggested, perhaps you can put the case to them that they might want to invest in better magnification.
Lastly, there are other electrologists there, why don’t you give another a trial run for a session? She might see those hairs more easily.
I feel the same at times, when I look the next day t looks as if nothing much has been treated (how can so many hars appear by the next day?).
Maybe you should swith electrologists there, book an appointment with someone else and you may see better results.
I paid for a package which I don’t mind but I am going to save up to go to Spain. This is because resultsare guaranteed more than here. Hopefully you can think what you want to do in the long term.
If you be patient about the hair and then save in the meantime, you might be able to fnally see the results you want to.
I don’t think results in terms of permanency is the problem here, rather not being able to see the hairs the client wants treating.
Where I have had concentrated treatment, hairs have been eliminated for good - i.e. underarms, areola’s, upper lip, sideburns.
However, I have so much peach fuzz on my beard area, I know if I wanted it all gone, I too would have this problem. For example, I just let her do 5-10mins on the chin; the hairs she wants. I don’t analyse it before or after. I just accept that hairs are being treated and therefore they will be destroyed or weakened because on this point I have no doubt.
I think we underestimate how many hairs we actually have. I still have lots left on my upper lip but since I bleach them and they are very fine and tiny, it appears I don’t have very much there. I wanted the moustache gone and it is.
max, as well as one of the other electrologits, may I suggest longer appointments? perhaps 30-45mins every few weeks. point out the bothersome areas using a mirror and ask for them all to be cleared.
Your post made me laugh a bit. I remember an adorable patient: “Luby,” with vellus hairs on her face. I would work and work and never seem to “get them all.” The reason being: you CAN’T get them all!
I asked Luby how she could possibly see these hairs and asked her to bring in her mirror. The mirror looked like something from an observatory — I don’t know how she could even lift the thing. A gigantic parabolic mirror! She told me she gets up early, as the sun is coming up, goes to the balcony and then scrutinizes her face. Madonna Mia!
I don’t mean to be unkind, but if other people are not able to see your hairs — don’t worry about it! Vellus hairs actually give a softer look to a woman’s skin. Again, I don’t mean to be insensitive; but consider doing nothing. “If nobody can see them, don’t bother!”
(As a side note: I decline to work on eyebrows or vellus hairs. It’s always a case of frustration for me and the patient. I like “the big stuff!”)
Hahaha, maybe she pulls out her mirror of bag Mary Poppins?
I like “the big stuff” too. But, although it is clear that this is not the case of “Luby”, I have seen too often how young adolescents of Mediterranean origin began with vellus or a few fine hairs on the chin and ended with severe hirsutism all over her face, neck and chest. When many of these young women start with Electrolysis are accompanied by her mother, and no more than a glance, to guess that “mom” has grey shadow in the face hiding the problem she are suffering along the years. Her daughter would have ended the same, without the Electrolysis.
The saddest thing is that the majority of these girls will never manage to understand how much sacrifice it did her mother to pay the treatment, in spite of the fact that “mom” needs the Electrolysis much more and - for law of life, has fewer years that the girl, to enjoy of hairfree in her face.
They do not understand either that when they begin at the age of 16, we are employed at both sides of the chin. And at the age of 26 we are employed at the low part of her neck. So difficult is it to understand that the hair system in the face of the woman takes a lot of time (years) to develop?
I also feel frustrated with the vellus in the face of the woman!
I like the big stuff, too, but have come to like the little stuff as well, since that seems to be what a lot of women want removed.
I echo all your words to new clients who are so distressed by the thousands of very fine, blond hairs on their face and neck. I look at them and see nothing abnormal and I tell them so, but they don’t agree. Yes, it is those parabolic mirrors, but don’t discount the side view car mirrors! Regardless of how many women are able to even see these hairs, they definitely want them treated. I like treating peach fuzz. At first, it wasn’t easy, but now I feel at home zipping and zapping away. The best thing an electrologist can do when a client insists on having her peach fuzz treated (assuming the electrologist can even see the hair)is to be up front honest and tell them that there is no hope of having a hairless face. It is all about doggedly thinning out the long and medium hairs until they are satisfied with the look. They should know that it will take many hours on the table.