Hi ladies & gents, I’ve not visited for a while. I’ve decided to come back to the drawing board after a number of miserable experiences with Electrolysis. I’m beginning to think I’ll never find a skilled practioner. Well I been researching again and came across a Clinic that do non evasive (no needle) Electrolysis…I didn’t know there was such a thing, isn’t that what you would call laser treatment???
Max1970;
You are correct, there is no such thing. Some try to use tweezers or conductive pads instead of a probe. Hairs however are insulators and current does not travel down an insulator.
Please stay away from such devices. I have a client who was treated by one such device and ended up with permanent scares because of it. It also did not help her hair removal in the least. If you wish to part with your money, just hand it to them and depart.
max, there have been several discussions here recently on clinics in London. run a search. I’ve seen at least 4-5 links to various places there.
You need the physical action of a metal probe being inserted into individual hair follicles so that enough heat or chemical (energy) comes in contact with tissue that causes hair to grow. No other way to do this.
What is promoted to you is not electrolysis and it is not laser.
I’m so glad that you have saved yourself money and wasted time and hope on such a concept. Don’t do this.
Why was your electrolysis experience so miserable? Surely there have got to be some excellent practitioners where you live that you can check out?
I didn’t think it sounded right…when I told the guy I had done lots of research and had never come across Electrolysis being done without a needle, he said " Electrolysis has come on in leaps a bounds, like the horse and cart becoming motorised ".
I’ve had 3 non successfully experiences, as a result I have scars and course hairs all over my chin. I only had fine blonde ones to start with! These hairs are the bain of my life where I find I’m constantly scrutinising my face, and my confidence has got so bad that I’m now seeking help from a psyicologist (SP?)
The guy you talked to most likely received an A+ in
his B-ll Sh-t 101 class. The word “electrolysis” is shamelessly and unlawfully attached to this useless proceedure. IT IS NOT ELECTROLYSIS. Many people like to use the term electrolysis because electrolysis delivers the goods if it is performed correctly using certain principles and with skilled practitioners. Probe electrolysis is the ticket to success - not patches and gels.
I would urge you to read all you can on hairfacts and hairtell about electrolysis, THEN and only then, go on the hunt to find a professional electrologist that can help you. Your time researching and the money you spend with a professional electrologist will ease your psychological “pain” more than just talking to a psychologist that mostly charges more than someone who performs a highly technical proceedure. Heck, we’ll listen to you here for free. Vent and rant whenever you like!
Read all you can. Educate yourself. It really won’t be that difficult to arm yourself with good hair removal knowledge before you waste any more time and money on useless stuff.
Dee
Thanks for all your encouragement, it’s people like yourself that help pick me up when I’m feeling negative. Fortunately we have the NHS in the UK (be it rather stretched), which means Psychologist are paid for through our National Insurance Contributes…so no nasty bills!
Maxine
Max, i sent you a PM, but not sure if it worked…
I was just curious what clnics in London you have tried. And what ones you had problems with.
Hope you can advise.
Thanks
Also, as far as I know, electrolysis, even performed badly, cannot cause blond hairs to turn into dark coarse hairs. Either you had something other than electrolysis done or those hairs were always there and you didn’t notice them, or you had laser done improperly, OR you had NEW hair develop. How old are you? how many hairs do you have on your chin now would you estimate? Proper electrolysis is an electrologist inserting a tiny needle and sending a current into each individual hair follicle, so that the hair is released and the electrologist slides it out without resistance. This really cannot make the hair a different color and the only way it can get coarse is if the electrologist PLUCKS the hair, i.e. it doesn’t slide out easily, and you would feel this happening.
lagirl;
For a hair to become dark, it requires a Blood Supply. Velus hair is white because it does not have a strong supply of blood. It becomes a Terminl Hair when it reaches the bottom of the hair follicle and finds a strong supply of Blood.
Something as minor as skin irritation can be enough to move a velus hair down the follicle and allow it to find a strong supply of Blood allowing it to become a Dark Terminal Hair.
Although we have somewhere in the archives an argument on the subject, I will say again, “Anyone who has ever worn a cast can attest to the fact that simple irritations (like skin rubbing on the cast) can cause hair to get thicker and darker.”
Just let me Clarify, I didn’t say darker but the hair is most definately slightly courser as I can now feel the spikeness as it’s coming through, and the hair isn’t laying flat anymore. I always thought I was getting good treatment as I only felt the odd plucking. You don’t always feel the plucking on very fine hairs, so it can be hard to tell. The course hairs are too many to count and only in the area that electrolysis was performed (each side of my chin).
Maxine
Can you give us a time-line as to when you started and when you finished your last of three treatments. Are you a plucker?
Thanks,
Dee
Certainly Dee…I started with the last of the three treatments probably a couple of weeks before Christmas (sessions - once a week for 10 minutes) until probably a week after new year. Felt more plucking with this lady, that’s why I didn’t have many treatments. I now pluck the courser hairs, at least 1 or two daily.
Smiles
Max
So three visits in less than a month for a total of 30 minutes to get rid of chin hair that you pluck every day? I would hardly describe this as a miserable electrolysis experience, however, I think you mean that it was miserable in the sense that the practitioner was plucking you. Miserable to me is someone going religiously for two years and not feeling like things are much better after a lot of time and money was invested. Miserable is someone telling you that their so called “electrolysis” method with no needles will help you. At least, you didn’t fall for that one.
You were very smart not to return to the electrologist that was plucking you. Probe electrolysis will permanently remove hair,but you need to hunt for a skilled person. You need to STOP PLUCKING, get first clearance and maintain a schedule every 2 or 3 weeks thereafter so that new hairs can be treated as they peek over the skin line. Miserable will not be an adjective used to describe electrolysis if you, the consumer, take control and know about the electrolysis proceedure.
Three visits lasting ten minutes each, with the sensation of plucking being felt beckons me to make this statement: You did not start off well (as you know). It’s like anything else, if you educate yourself first about basic electrolysis principles, you will understand what you need to do to get results for those chin hairs. It’s all been said here on hairtell, so there is no reason why you shouldn’t approach this process and get 100% permanent total hair removal, unless there are no professional probe/needle electrologists in your locale. That’s the real challenge, finding someone who knows how to get you results, and I know you will be trying hard to make that happen.
Thanks for responding and good luck to you.
Dee