I thought some might find this of interest. I almost cried laughing, it’s like watching the merry butcher at work !
Seana
This is horrible ! why does she make that on this poor guy ?
Normally the derma roller is used for burned skin, to help healing, and here, this procedure will damage his skin…
but she’s so CHEERFUL about it as she wiped the blood fromhis forehead
Seana
This woman is crazy!
Actually, that’s what it should look like.
I wish you could all see what a real dermabrasion looks like … it’s the stuff of horror movies. (When asked to assist in these … years ago … I tried to get out of it!)
My problem with this video is that what you are seeing is a surgical procedure, and no esthetician has any business doing it! In “licensed States,” an esthetician is not allowed to puncture the skin or cause bleeding. So, there it is.
She said that she had some “numbing cream on the face and just left it on.” Jesus! I’m sure that the cream was not sterile and I’m sure that there were no pre-surgical preps (I saw no evidence of this). A good swab with Betadine would be appropriate; and that’s probably what a surgeon would do.
Imagine that there was a bit of staph on the skin (and there always is … you know, your own happy “resident bacterial?") So now, the woman has spread the bacterial all over the entire face … right into dermis and blood supply itself. (And, DIY on this? WOW!)
In virtually all cases, the patient’s own immune system will make this a non-issue. But, what if the skin was harboring one of the “super-bugs?” The result could easily be a dead client!
My other objection to the video (and it’s pretty universal) is that I would prefer the presenter use a WRITTEN SCRIPT!
Somebody just “winging it” is annoying. If you are going to present something on-line, write it out and make it truly educational (and professional). The “chit-chat” videos never seem to get to the point … they seem pointless. And don’t talk through the whole thing. Pause (keep quite) and just show the treatment. You don’t have to babble the whole time.
Maybe that’s why this woman looks like a blithering “air-head?” (Now, I’m going for a walk on the beach … I need to “chill the hell out!” Whew! Too much coffee this morning? tee hee)
I wanted to say, this is terrible the way she uses the roller needle on the skin.
The way this woman does the procedure could damage the skin, or as you described, could get him an infection.
I’m not defending this woman, but I have to say YES it looks horrible, but this will not “damage the skin” … it should improve it. (And, I don’t think needling is used for burn patients … I could be wrong … but, I don’t see the rationale.)
All methods to stimulate “collagen turnover” literally MUST cause “skin damage” to get the whole thing pumped up and working. Controlled “damage” sets-off chemical mediators (from mast cells) that start-up the whole process.
Minimal damage to stimulate the reaction is best; and actually this needling stuff is minimal. Laser “resurfacing,” chemical peels … all of it … ever seen the aftermath of these procedures?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFNe2_9YJXs this was on a look 10 years younger program my understanding is it is suppose to bleed to work properly but only the ones used by professionals the ones you buy in shops won’t work the same. Its like electrolysis pens you use at home apose to seeking professional electrolysis from someone qualified just don’t compare the home ones are rubbish I bought a roller of amazon for stretch marks on stomach as my babies did zero for me.
@Michael : check this links please : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiWhybL-6f8
In a TV Show avaible on youtube (I lost the name), I already see this kind of procedure to help people with burn scares.
Yes I saw the aftermath. You are right Michael.
The things that blew me away, were, in no particular order:
1.Her attitude throughout the proceedure.
2.Her introducing it as a DIY project, I honestly couldnt believe that one.
3. Her talking about how safe this proceedure was around the eyes and to get as close in as possible
She does other video’s so I checked into them a little, the second one I saw she was doing it on herself .No where near as much blood as on this fellow but she looked like she came out of the ring with Rocky! I was left thinking I would NEVER take beauty advice from this person.Even though I knew already about the mechanics of this proceedure, I wa in no way prepared for the reality of seeing it.
Seana
This woman has NO idea what she is doing. I trained in cosmetology (which covers esthetics) and this is way, way beyond the scope of our license. Estheticians CAN do micro needling using short needles, or under the supervision of a physician, but something causing this kind of bleeding should NEVER be done by a non-medical person! This has gone beyond the scope of esthetics and into the medical field. She is far, far too aggressive and is clearly using very long needles (normally only used for severe scarring) on normal skin.
Micro needling is not reserved for scars; it can be done on healthy skin that needs rejuvenation. However, you would use much shorter needles and cause much less bleeding. NEVER go to an unlicensed person for this kind of treatment.
Following is mostly for “lurkers” and clients:
Thanks for your super response “WeR.” You are just about my favorite poster on Hairtell! (Okay … number three!)
Interestingly, a needling procedure (using tiny needles), that causes no bleeding at all (and penetrates just the epidermis), should yield good results. And it’s SAFE!
See, the “chemical mediators” that kick off the healing process and induce “collagen turnover” are also nicely located in that ultra-thin layer of skin: the epidermis! (The epidermis contains no blood vessels at all, and is nutrient-supplied only by the underlying “papillary dermis.”)
Here’s a fun example you can try on yourself. Simply take a semi-sharp instrument (maybe a dull knife or pencil?) and run it along your skin … be sure NOT to cut yourself. Notice that within a few seconds, the path turns red. In some people the path will actually “bump-up” (called “dermographia” or “skin-writing”). It’s all about “mast cells” and histamine … you can read it yourself:
What’s happening? The infinitesimal injury to the (bloodless) epidermis has sent a chemical “email” to the dermis (mast cells) to get going and “heal-me-up.” The process gets going from only a tiny “injury.” Indeed, after many benign needling-treatments, that do not penetrate the blood-rich dermis, maybe some wrinkles might be “filled in,” or scars reduced in appearance?
(I would say that if a client feels some “itching” … an indicator of the histamine response & healing process … after such a minor treatment, that’s a GOOD sign that “it’s going to work” to some degree!)
Of course, deeper needling should cause a much more effective response. But the risks of an esthetician doing this make it a potentially lethal treatment. A client could die from a serious infection. There is no need for any esthetician to do what that “Goof-Ball Looney-Bin” is doing! What a “nut!”
Oh, by the way … and Jossie will confirm this … in cases with old acne scars (and beard removal) the electrolysis injury always reduces the appearance of the scars. Same “wound healing process gets jacked-up," but electrolysis is much more effective than simple “skin needling.”
(Electrolysis injures ALL THREE layers of the skin … even down to the “fat layer” on deep hair follicles.)
I’m glad I’m not the onl person who thought she was nuts. There’s one point when watching her do it on herself she gets up to the camera and declares “look at my holes!” I nearly died laughing. At least , showing this link has sparked some thought and discussion. Be nice to your face people!
Seana
Yes, I can confirm that this is absolutely true. Some of our Hairtell friends have had occasion to see for themselves.