Now that’s a VERY good idea, Michael is the BEST teacher in the world. Those who know me know that I would kill to have the opportunity to learn at his side.
Unlike me, he knows how to transmit his knowledge to students, and has extensive experience in teaching.
(I know this post is going to cost me a good scolding. I hope Mike does not find out :whistle: )
Thank you for agreeing to share, Stoppit.
The main objective in this area was not exactly remove hairs but brake acne and improve skin healing. The strategy was Clear & Wait, and Mantain & Advance.
Before first clearing(September 2011)
A year after. Before second clearing(September 2012)
2 years after before third clearing. (September 2013)
There is nothing wrong, Lara, only inadvisable if you want to finish in the shortest time possible. You see, if your electrologist is near you, you can reduce the intervals between sessions so that shaving is not necessary, and still maintain a look that allows a “normal” life. The problem with shaving is that if the hairs are not very thick as is common in many women, a large percentage of them will be in a resting phase for quite some time. Therefore, regular or occasional shaving prevents these hairs grow enough to be treated because they are too close to the skin. Nobody usually mention that the hairs on the face of the woman have a very short growing period (perhaps 3 weeks?). Imagine that the intervals between your electrolysis sessions are 3 or 4 weeks and during this time you are shaving. Well, a good group of hairs was able to enter in growth phase and could have been treated, but they missed the boat because you did not you come to your appointment with Electrolysis, so again in resting phase, stage where they will remain for months. And so, over and over,
Yeah, I know the feeling. I’ve had two clearences done by Josefa on my face too(above the beard) so far and there were two large red spots caused by years of plucking. After the first clearence it didn’t change much but now months after the second, everything is clearing up and I can barely see those red marks anymore. Maybe I could share pictures later if that’s ok with the topic starter.
Also, before I had my first electrolysis treatment on the face I stopped plucking for about 18 months or so, so the two clearences I’ve had so far have given me an amazing reduction already. [/quote]
Thank you dear Johnson, I’ll open a thread specifically devoted to men’s facial cases. I could put your photos and you can add some of yours. The idea is to show that far from worsen skin conditions, the Electrolysis can improve it … if the professional works carefully and also helps the use of special probes. Do you agree?
Yeah, I know the feeling. I’ve had two clearences done by Josefa on my face too(above the beard) so far and there were two large red spots caused by years of plucking. After the first clearence it didn’t change much but now months after the second, everything is clearing up and I can barely see those red marks anymore. Maybe I could share pictures later if that’s ok with the topic starter.
Also, before I had my first electrolysis treatment on the face I stopped plucking for about 18 months or so, so the two clearences I’ve had so far have given me an amazing reduction already. [/quote]
Thank you dear Johnson, I’ll open a thread specifically devoted to men’s facial cases. I could put your photos and you can add some of yours. The idea is to show that far from worsen skin conditions, the Electrolysis can improve it … if the professional works carefully and also helps the use of special probes. Do you agree? [/quote]
Yes, I’ve seen it on myself so good idea 
@ depilacionelectr I swear if I didnt have kids I would already have hitchhiked my way accross the continent to go get some lessons from Michael, so you definitely arent alone in that desire.
Ha ha, yes, and I would become the stowaway of a pirate ship. Michael accepts students with a certain level of practice. And from what I can see, you are on track to achieve this very soon, Seana.
Here’s an example of how a single clearance can change everything, both on the practical aspect, as in the visual effect. In 2011, we had very little time to do a full clearance on the arms. So we could only spend an hour or 90 minutes (I can not remember) to select some of the most notorious hairs in the most distal part of the arms.
Because of my bad habit of removing all the visible hairs in a specific area, little Stoppit´s sister, had to constantly remind me: “Make a selection, Josefa, please select only the thickest hairs” I said: “Oh, do not worry, the next regrowth give natural look to the area”. Then, she reply very eloquently: “No regrowth!, No regrowth!”.
In September 2012, we finally had the time to do a full clearance on arms. And this is the result a year later.
Before (September 2012)
A year later (September 2013)
These are the hands after 2 clearances:
Before third clearing (September 2013)
Before first clearance (September 2011)
Fingers after 2 clearances.
I love this last photo. For me it is the gesture that best represents the way in which the person has faced the problem of hairs. Knocking the opponent. 
Verra nice. You can be proud of your work.
Yes, you could say that I am proud to fight to get the most out of the money that my clients spend on each session.
These people make a long journey to come here. As if this were not enough, they have a hard time to keep the hair intact so they can be removed. If each hair is not treated thoroughly, but I pluck a few out of every 100, what would all that sacrifice?
and in what kind of professional I would become because of that?
Hi everyone,
It’s been a while. My sister had her third trip in September and I had had mine at the end of October. Some areas were pretty much already completed (for example, her sideburns). We added new areas both last year and this year. I finally managed to get my first proper clearance in the centre of the chest.
Thanks to Josefa for displaying some updates for us. It’s a shame that it’s not possible to display photos of the entire face because a before/after of the full face really shows the full extent of the work that has been done and the difference it has made.
I hope to update with further pics soon.
For now, here is video that Josefa has just uploaded. We made some clips during my face and neck treatment this year and this is a short compilation of those clips: YouTube: Electrolysis removal of fine facial hair (Please watch in HD)
I hope it will help those posters who ask about the extraction of hairs. Nothing was felt on the removal of any hairs as they just slide out.
Having just done at least a half million hairs JUST LIKE THOSE with about a million and a half left to go, I have an incredible respect for just how fussy this work is. As always Josefa you continue to impress. Do you EVER use tweezers? I suppose the fingers make it unnecessary to keep switching implements, so if you can do it, it’s likely to be a lot faster.
As a side note, about half way through the video there seems to be some work being done several days after some other work. The scabbing, small as it is, makes me feel better about the current condition of my chin which is pretty much the same. It shows it happens to EVERYONE and isnt a major concern.
Seana
I don’t think Josefa will mind me replying on her behalf. She only uses tweezers when it’s not possible to use her fingers because the hair is too short. I only remember her getting them out once for a few minutes during my week there. Clients who travel are aware of Josefa’s requirements and we willingly comply by growing hair out.
Speed is definitely a significant factor but using fingers is also helpful in determining whether you have sufficiently treated the follicle. Sometimes, it is possible to remove a hair with tweezers which would not release so easily using fingers. I am definitely a follower and would not work another way if I have the choice.
As for scabbing, when I started electrolysis I thought scabbing was bad and a result of the electrologist not figuring out what settings were best. And it was a much more likely from thermolysis so that was to be avoided. I now know much better. Yes, scabbing can be and should be minimised - Josefa was the first?/one of the first? to take up the challenge to try out Laurier IBP when Mike re-introduced them. My sister was one of the first guinea pigs when Josefa was testing them out.
Last year my face (neck is a bit different) responded very well to the extensive work with a change in probe from the year before. Here is a reminder: http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/101636/stoppit_tidyup.html#Post101636
I mean, I could see how readers would probably think I didn’t even have as much electrolysis as I did. This year, Josefa said almost immediately after beginning work that my skin was much harder to work on and she tried a host of things to make the releases easier to achieve but at the end of the day, we had to press on. The same things as last year were not working as well. So I experienced a little more scabbing on the cheek area than last year. On the final day we were going to work on the right side of my neck, which I scheduled for the afternoon (usually the mornings were for my face/neck). So Josefa recommended I apply a cream which I wish I remembered the name of - it was thick and greasy and the aim was to increase the moisture and conductivity of my skin. It worked - the hairs were releasing mostly with one shot of current and Josefa was able to work faster. I experienced a lot less scabbing on this side of the neck and therefore currently have less PIH. I’m going to try to get a photo of it later today.
Despite all the efforts, if the aim is killing follicles and one is doing a lot of work in one area, some scabbing is expected on the face. If we compare them to the number of total treated follicles in the area, it’s a small percentage.
Yes, I agree with you - it’s not a major concern. I’d take a little more scabbing over regrowth any day.
Stoppit&tidyup, when and for how long did you reply the cream? The night before the treatment of several hours before the treatment?
Hi ekade, I guess I had it on for about 4 or 5 hours. It is quite unpleasant but it had to be done! I don’t think it would be very helpful unless the client is experiencing very dry skin the affecting conductivity such as I was.
You had the day of the treatment, right?
Yes, in the morning of the day, treatment was in the afternoon.
amazing story! Stopitandtidyup I am so intrigued about your sisters journey how often did you guys go to Spain? Cause as of now I am having to go every week to my electrolysis
Hi all, been ages since I updated this thread.
Just thought I’d mention for any curious readers that I haven’t had electrolysis since 2013. My face has maintained the reduction we achieved. It went a bit crazy when I was pregnant (as did the hair on the rest of my body) but post-partum along with the hair on my head, it fell out and it’s all back to how it was before.
Same story with my sister’s results although she has had the odd trip since and more facial work (not many hours compared to before though). All the major stuff was done by 2013 and since then it’s really been about reducing the fluff on her beard area and neck (which was not as bad as mine).
I just noticed a few posts above I mention Josefa using her fingers to remove hair and I read Seana is a convert recently(?).
Very annoying that my pictures are gone!
