My Electrolysis Journey

Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
#41

Thanks Dee. I have to say I really feel comfortable with her and she is very open to talking about things.

Regarding her machine, I will try to ask but am not sure I am qualified or confident enough to do so… Can you give me some info as to why she may be better off with a Platinum or Pure machine and I will definitely try.

Another Q, I really feel I should call the other two electrologists and let them know that I will not be going ahead. My mum and sister do not think this is necessary, and they think I’ll just end up having to tell them where I am going and why. What do you think? I just think it’s polite and, well, just decent.

#42

If she has a busy practice, the Platinum or Pure would give her more options for better electrolysis care and that spills over into satisfied clients. Satisfied clients tell their mothers, sisters, aunts, girlfriend and co-workers and thus, that what keeps ones business going strong. Word of mouth is like gold in ones hand.

If you contact the other electrologists you had seen for consultation and they ask you questions about why the third one has an advantage over them, are you prepared to tell them? An Apilus CLEO electrologist verses a Silhouet-Tone VMC electrologist, for example, would not be a good reason to choose the Apilus electrologist because the VMC is far better epilator than the Cleo epilator.

I don’t get call backs from people that start and then stop after a half dozen treatments. I always wonder about them and would have appreciated a courtesy call. In my mind, I reason that they are not committed to the plan because of money or time constraints. Many do end up calling back in the far future and say something like, “Do you remember me? I need help.” The ones that have a consult and don’t follow through probably knew off the bat that they couldn’t commit after they were briefed on what they need to do for 9-18 months to get hair-free. It’s really okay if you don’t call them and it wouldn’t be impolite not to as they are probably use to things like this happening. It would be okay to call them as well, if that is the kind of person you are…

#43

You make some good points, Dee… I suppose I would feel bad, as it isn’t very nice to be told that the client would rather travel further for a treatment than go to you, and may well be unnecessary.

Sorry, what is Silhouet-Tone VMC? I don’t think I have been to see anyone who uses that machine, unless it’s another name for Sterex or Carlton classic.

Thank you.

#44

I was just using that as an example. The Silhouet Tone VMC is a very nice professional epilator and steps above a Cleo, in my opinion. THe Apilus brand puts out great products, but not all models within a brand are equal. I know nothing about Sterex and Carlton classic epilators.

#45

Ah, right. Well thank you for the reasoning behind upgrading, I will keep it all in mind for when this topic arises or if I feel comfortable to broach myself.

I had my first treatment session. It went well. I was passing Dorking yesterday so got in touch with the electrologist and she said she could slot me in for 40mins. She thinned out the entire area. It is even except for the test area, as she did not want to interrupt the healing there. This morning the redness has subsided considerably ( it’s been 14 hrs now), the bumps have gone and no scabs yet. She used an insulated probe this time. Plus after we finished she mentioned that some of the hairs were in the catagen phase so were difficult the remove as a result.

I did the same as last time for aftercare, washed with cold water and applied witch hazel - plus managed to stay sleeping on my back all night last night :slight_smile: so, so far so good.

She suggested another appointment in two weeks, which I can do. There are still lots of noticable hairs but alot less now. Maybe next we can make a longer treatment to get more of them, as 40mins was fine, not as daunting as I thought it might be.

Stopit, just for you, I kept count the entire time! I counted 230-240 treated hairs in 40mins. :slight_smile:

I just wanted to ask something, can anyone explain the advantages of blend over diathermy? Short of ordering the electrolysis book - which I think I will do - I cannot see any reasoning in any info I have found.I’m just trying to understand the electrologists choice of machine. She purchased it two years ago, when did the pure and platinum machines get introduced?

Thanks.

#46

In 2005. Please know that you will get permanent hair removal with the Cleo model. It is less expensive than the 27 megahertz Platinum and Pure, so it may have been a financial decision on her part.

#47

In 2005. Please know that you will get permanent hair removal with the Cleo model. It is less expensive than the 27 megahertz Platinum and Pure, so it may have been a financial decision on her part. [/quote]

Great, thanks for that info. She operates from home, so it might well have been a cost decision.

#48

Hehe, thanks Pokka. That’s about the same as my electrologist.

Probably was a cost decision.

Also, in my limited understanding, Diathermy is the most difficult to master and it requires accurate insertions/settings to damage the follicle. Blend has the lye which also acts so is more forgiving. My electrologist does use Diathermy if the client wants an area cleared quickly (as it’s faster) and the hairs are fine but then she’d use blend when they start coming back through.

#49

No Probs, Stopit, counting them gave me something else to focus on which inturn helped distract me.

I’m hoping to upload the pics I took tomorrow so you guys can see what it looked like after 30hours - I’ve misplaced the cable connecting the camera to my computer… Then will take some more once all the scabs have formed, had a few new ones today, so thought it best to apply witch hazel today too.

#50

Hi,

Finally found the camera cable! Here are the pics 30hrs after my first 40min treatment on Friday:

Right side of face:

Left side of face:

Corner of upperlip (warning: not pretty, will delete if requested):

Let me know what you think. I need to get some more pics, but just haven’t had the time during the day today.

#51

We never want you to delete your pictueres. We want others to find your testimony years from now.

That one pustule in the last picture is the kind that Tea Tree Oil usually gets rid of overnight.

#52

Hi James,

Ok, I will leave the picture there. The pustule has gone now, use of witch hazel for a few days must have helped. I haven’t used tea tree so far as my electrologist applies it after the treatment. I will certainly do so in future if this occurs again. Thanks.

#53

How long does it take for your pinpoint scabs to slough off? Do you have scabbing every time?

#54

Well, the first test patch with the sterex machine (2nd Oct) did cause some scabs; those didn’t fall off until just after the 12th oct, but faint marks were left. Hopefully they’ll fade soon. The test patch with the apilus left a few scabs, but they were caused whilst the electrologist was trying to determine the best energy to use. The scabs from the test haven’t fallen off yet, it’s now been 8 days since then.

When I had scabs from laser they usually fell off after a week and never left marks on my skin.

Is this worrying? Will all the scabs from electrolysis cause marking based on the initial marking? I suppose time will tell for the new ones.

#55

I am not trying to sell you Tea Tree Oil here, (it’s not like I am a Melaleuca door to door sales guy) but if you used it, you would not have pustules, or scabs that last for a week. I will try not to repeat this statement again to you least you think that I have stock in some tea tree oil cartel. You have obviously decided that you don’t want to use it, but you keep complaining of side effects that it would have handled nicely.

#56

My intention is not to complain merely to report what I see. Thank you for your advice. I have used tea tree oil in the past and it has caused red rashes, even when I have used the smallest amount, so am avoiding using it. My sister loves it, but I cannot use it which is why I have been using thermal water, witch hazel and aloe vera (in this order) for three days and then just the thermal water and a moisturiser after that.

Will upload pics from today later on.

#57

I have not tried it, but I have been told that Emul Oil may help those who can not use Tea Tree Oil. If both of these don’t work for you, something that would work is a mixture of Vitamin C with Milk Of Magnesia. This would protect the skin from infection while speeding the healing and collagen creation.

#58

Thanks, again, James.

I have tried emu oil, but it clogged my pores and resulted in spots. It’s great for my legs and elbows, just not my face unfortunately. I will increase my intake of vitC; or do you mean applying this to the skin? I’ve heard Milk of Magnesia is an exfoliant, is this right?

This is just the way my skin is. It will just take me a bit longer to heal. Plus, my skin is drier at the moment due to the changes in weather and air travel before the treatment. I’m drinking more water, but it is what it is. I have dry sensitive skin. I think not applying my moisturiser for a few days probably didn’t help but applying moisturiser may have resulted in more pustules during those few days…

#59

Pictures of treatment 1 after 4 days

Left side of face:

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Right side of face:

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Corner of upper lip:

Comparing these pics to the other day shows a big difference :slight_smile: Yay!

#60

You can get Vitamin C in powdered or crystal form. These are ready to be mixed with any topical for direct to skin application. Milk of Magnesia does have a mild exfoliant property, as one of the so called inactive ingredients is “sodium hyporchlorite”, which your mother always refered to as “bleach”. It is, however, a small amount, so it is safe to apply to skin, or drink, as that is the use for which the product is designed.

Anyway, the mixture of the two will give you two powerful skin healers (C and Mag) while also protecting the skin overnight, and drawing out any fluids that might be draining from the treatment area.