microflash thermolysis, how many clearances ?

[mimir]

Hi I am new to the forum, 19 year old male. Considering electrolysis on the front of my neck and then eventually on my chest and stomach. I went to a local practitioner here in montreal who has been around for the past 25 years and recommended by the electrologist association of my province. She estimated clearance time for the front of my neck to about 1.5 hours. And said each hair would probably have to be treated around 7 to 10 times. Now I have read here that after 3 clearances little to no hair grows back (correct me if i’m wrong) so I feel a bit lost. She does blend, thermolysis and galvanic but in my case she said she would use microflash thermolysis. Is there any specific reasons why each hair would have to be zapped 10 times ?

Thank you for your answers it is really appreciated.

[gorillagal]

Hello mimir, welcome to the forum!

If properly treated with electrolysis, a hair follicle requires 1 time to die. Not 10, 7, or 3 - ONE.

The “3 clearances” strategy refers to an area, not individual hair follicles. Let’s say you haven’t removed hair in an area of your body for several months (4+ months). All the visible hair you see looking at that body part is not all the hair you grow. Some hairs are still under the skin, or have been shed and will start growing again. Same thing applies to an area of the body that has been waxed or shaven recently - except that the amount of visible hairs will “trickle in” and be treated in more sessions instead of cleared en masse then maintained.
Electrolysis can only treat those visible hairs above the skin referenced above. That’s why you have to go again for treatments in an area even though it takes 1 zap from electrolysis for a hair follicle to die.
With “3 clearances”, all the hair in a given area will be removed, then again in 4+ months, then again in 4+ months. By the 3rd clearance, there is a very small or no percentage of hair left.

If you have an incompetent electrologist who plucks the hair instead of properly treating it (it should slide out without pain), you may be having treatments indefinitely.

Sometimes electrologists say “the hair takes x amount of times to die” because that sounds simpler for the consumer, instead of going on about hair growth cycles. What she maybe trying to say is “you’ll have to come in x amount times before an area of your body is hair-free permanently”. Or maybe what she said to you is what she actually believes. I don’t know. But it is not the truth.

[mimir]

Thank you gorillagal

I forgot about all that hair cycle thing and you are absolutely right. I did not mention to the electrologist that I have not been shaving/waving my neck and chest for at least 3 months now. Considering this her answer might have been different. Although 3 clearances maybe enough I will probably need more treatments later in my life considering I am only 19. It will be a long journey but I am ready for it
I will try to post pictures when I start my chest if it can help anyone.

[Deedra]

Hairs don’t need to be zapped ten times. Only once.

MicroFlash is as deadly as blend and galvanic and manual thermolysis. It’s all about using the correct intensity and timing (energy).

This is the most confusing concept for consumers to grasp. You did a great job gorilla explaining this.

I tell my clients that it can take anywhere from 8-15 sessions to treat the same area over a period of 9-18 months, that is, if they allow me the time to clear them each and every time. If that is not possible, I clear an area and maintain that clearance everytime we meet and then advance to a new area, likewise keeping the new area clear.

If the client agrees to do full clearances every three months, with no tampering with the hair in between, that works out well, too.

Hairs SHOULD be treated with the ONE AND DONE STRATEGY. Clients need to be educated thoroughly until they understand hair growth cycles. This has always been a difficult thing to explain, but we keep trying here in Hairtell. Thanks to all that help . Nice job, gorilla. Thanks again.

[mimir]

Ok so I think I got it.

I do full clearances every 3-4 months without touching the hair between clearances in order to let all the hairs grow so then can all be treated in the next clearance.

Or I clear the area as soon as hair grows back but this will involve more than 3 clearances but time of each treatment will be shorter because only anagen will be treated. Is that it.

Thank you for your answers guys it really helps me as it can become confusing sometimes.

[system]

These are some of the cases in the same area.

Case 1. 24 year old male (At start of treatment)

Before (March 2013):

January 2015, 7 months after fourth clearance. Strategy: maintain and advance.

Note: Most are guys from Hairtell, so you can contact them directly if you want additional information. The case above is Johnson

[system]

Case 2: 31 year old male.

Before first clearance:

Before second clearance:

5 months after second clearance:

User: Spaniard

[system]

Case 3: 24 year old male. Recent case, so it is not possible to document the results after the third clearing.

Before first clearance (November 2014):

Before second clearance (December 2014):

Before third clearance (February 2015):

[Bono]

Awesome work Jossie!

I really need to take more photos because VISUALS are what people WANT to see!

[mimir]

thank you for sharing these pictures Josefa. This work is really nice, patients must be happy of the results. Do you remember how much time clearances took for these cases ?

[system]

The guys are the ones who deserve our thanks for agreeing to share their photos.

In the first two cases, removing superfluous hair below the neck line, took about an hour for each side for the first clearance. In subsequent clearances we move to the desired customer design. Thus approximately one additional hour on each side. The third case took longer. 2.5 hours on each side for the first clearance, 1 hour on each side for the second. The third clearance has taken 1 hour in total for both sides, although we can not yet see the results. The hair density is considerably higher, and since the process is recent, you can still see traces of hyperpigmentation.