Hi, I am wondering if anybody knows if there is an electrologist in the United States that offers to put someone under anesthesia and work on them for a full day (or maybe even two electrologists to work at the same time)? Is there a demand for this kind of service? I would prefer to do that instead of having to go in very frequently for several hours at a time to clear larger areas. Any help is appreciated.
I don’t know where you live but I doubt you’d be able to find a reputable anesthetist who would do this for a procedure such as electrology. To put someone under is a very serious procedure indeed and should be reserved for surgical procedures.
It’s a very odd request and you’d be putting yourself under unnecessary risk if you actually did find someone to do it.
But then again I don’t live in the U.S and anything seems possible if you have the money.
You won’t find anyone who can offer general anesthesia for electrolysis, as one has to do that in an actual hospital operatory in order to monitor the vitals, as many people under general anesthesia have complications including death just from the anesthetic alone.
What is more likely is finding someone who can do a local anesthetic, or someone who can do the work you need done with enough technique and skill that anesthetic is not necessary, or is considered not worth the added expense.
As such, you would do well to consider Executive Clearance in Buffalo, or E-3000 in Dallas. In either case, you should be able to get cleared once every 4 to 8 weeks, and avoid the snail’s pace that many people complain about when all they can get is one hour once a week.
Like many things in the US it is not a question of is there a market for the service you describe, there certainly is, the problem is there is no access to the service you desire due to regulations, licensure, and insurance issues. It would be hard for Paris Hilton to arrange what you describe.
What areas do you have in mind?
What areas? What type of hair?
I’m looking for clearance of hair on the neck (below the beard) and pubic area, a reduction in arms and legs, and some work to clean up chest, shoulders, back… I would say a minimum of about 20 hours for the first time. So even if general anesthesia isn’t an option, there are electrologists who can offer local anesthesia for specific areas? I’m looking for the fastest, most tolerable way to go about it, with cost being a secondary concern behind speed and comfort.
On some of the areas it should be fairly easy to come along without any anesthesis even over long time (e.g., back). While this is going on, it should be easy to apply local anesthesis EMLA (requiring one hour in order to be effective) on another, more sensitive area.
An different question is how much sense it makes to start with large elektrolysis projects anywhere on the body in parallel instead of concentrating efforts on e.g. one or two areas.
Please let me mention that there are also limits on the length of Anesthesis - the longer it lasts the more dangerous it is.
Hi:
Nobody is going to do general anaesthetic since the risks are too high, such as it could result in death.
The only ones I hear of using an injected local are E-3000 and I believe the person doing the injecting had dental experience.
I agree that the safest route to go would be with no local, but covering small areas with a topical such as Emla would be OK, plus possibly taking a painkiller such as tylenol 3 if needed.
Covering large areas with a stronger local could also prove fatal.
I also think the areas you want to have done within this 20 hours is a bit too ambitious.
Alicia
For areas with dense coarse dark growth, laser would be the fastest and cheapest, i.e. for your pubic area, potentially neck, and for a few sessions on legs and lower arms (upper arms usually don’t have coarse enough hair).
I would add that I don’t know many people who could have all those things to first clearance in 20 hours. Depending on one’s hair situation, 20 hours might just cover the beard work, and maybe a little extra.
My clients and I often do 20 hours during one trip for that client, and then some.
I guess the point to make here is that you CAN get long appointments, and get to a point where you are in control of the hair in a short period of time, but you may not be able to get to first clearance on all those areas in one trip, unless you plan on visiting someplace for a week or more. Even then, I have already told you of the only two places I know of that may be able to accommodate you.
If you want to estimate the number of hours, count the hairs and assume the electrologist treats 5-10 hairs per minute or so.
I’ve done full face/beard with no injections. You can see my thread by searching Kickin bulbs in the search box. I will say the lip and chin are the worst. The neck was very tolerable.
I will be doing shoulders and back along with face next time. I can’t imagine needing anything for those if I didn’t on the lip.
I go to James, and my first full beard removal was 30 hours, and he gets almost 600 hairs per hour on me and I’m not the most compliant client. J
May I add that James lives by his own doings when he is on the other side receiving electrolysis. He needed no injections last week when I cleared his face and neck. Upper lip was excluded, since he does not desire to remove his upper lip hair. We’re getting there James.
Actually, we DID do a few unwanted upper and lower lip hairs. Of course, 5 to 10 hairs out of a few thousand are easy to forget.
By the way, I did not even feel more than a hot drop of boiling water. I guess you learned well Grasshopper.
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Wellllll… I didn’t want to talk about the few gray hairs that were targeted on your upper and under lip, James. Makes you sound like an old grandpa or worse.
I can not imagine getting even 5 hours of electrolysis without local anesthesia. You guys are strong.
FYI – When I went to electrology 3000, the lidocaine injections were given by the electrologists themselves. I got no side effects and the treatment was a breeze.
Maybe they changed laws about who can and cannot give those injections?
The laws are clear. Individuals giving injections of anything, including saline solution should be credentialed or operating under the authority and supervision of a credentialed professional. We must make sure licensing fees are collected after all. E-3000 had a doctor on staff in the past, and so all injections were technically under that doctor’s “supervision”, but I don’t know what their situation is today. I only know that they have had much scrutiny of their injection program from the authorities.
Depending on the area being treated, skillful work with the better equipment makes hours of treatment easy to handle. Many of my clients say that the worst part of their treatment was being prone and staying still on the treatment table for so long. That’s why I play them movies or the TV, so they can get lost in that, and forget about the time.
Before we get to full final clearance, most people have fallen asleep while I am working on them. TempleJ will get there too, if we get the time to do another few clearances, and enjoy that sweet place where the hairs are not so close together, and they are not so fat in the bulb.
I will say that I can’t imagine it with some slow modality. But with the zaps being very fast, I find it doable. This is were the equipment and skill of the practicioner come into play. J
Lidocaine injections hurt almost as much as electrolysis itself. Again, there is usually no need for incjections except maybe by a dentist in case of a male upper lip. For everything else, transdermal lidocain (EMLA or Anesthesis Creme) is usually sufficient.
Beate
Lidocaine injections hurt almost as much as electrolysis itself.
Actually they hurt more than electrolysis for sure.
However, I prefer the pain from 5 Lido injections to the pain from 1,000 extractions without anesthesia any day.