Many thanks for this great forum....!!!

…I only wish I’d known of it a few years ago. I briefly considered going to school for electrology training, but in my research I (erroneously) came to the conclusion there wasn’t a demand for electrology services.

Boy was I wrong…

A few years,…and a few hairs later–I’m seeking an electrologist for myself!

If not for this forum, I wouldn’t have seen how electrology is the only way to rid myself of unwanted hair permanently.I also wouldn’t have been privy to the feedback as to some of the highly recommended electrologists in my area.

As one that is sick to death of spending money on temporary solutions–thanks so much for this terrific resource!

Stacy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thank you for your kind words of appreciation.

Sometimes this can be a thankless task.

The majority of people, come to the site, get what they want and never say thank you, nor give back either with donations or postings.

Glad to have you aboard.

And you know, California could use more good electrologists… especially one willing to learn and perform thermolysis as well. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Talk about being the local Unicorn!

I echo that thanks. A heartfelt thank you to all of you who dispense your advice generously here.
Before discovering this forum, I had not realized that I needed more frequent electrolysis sessions and the apparently incompetent electrolygist I was seeing had not ever suggested it. The result was that I was making progress very, very slowly. Since I’ve started having weekly sessions, I am no longer staring at my face in the mirror every 5 minutes. It is mind boggling to think about the time that I needlessly spent fretting about my facial hair…

Thank you for the welcome, James–I certainly appreciate it!

I found this board through an internet search, it was a fluke. One look at the board where visitors are seeking electrologists and I was surprised. So many people seeking a good recommendation. I didn’t realize there was such a need for electrologists.

I allowed the naysayers with their talk of lasers makng the profession obsolete to mislead me. LOL!

I appreciate your encouragement, too.

I have a question–do all schools teach thermolysis? Why is it that so few here in CA actually utilize this method (in your opinion)? Is it a method in demand in CA?

Take care,
Stacy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Oh sure, ask me a question that is guaranteed to get people pissed off with me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

To hear people tell it, electrolysis went from being an unneeded field to a dieing field and has remained so for 135 years! The simple truth is 9 out of 10 people want some hair permanently removed, they just don’t necessarily know that it is possible to do it, and now thanks to lots of confusing advertising and so called “debunking” articles (more like RE-Bunking articles) people don’t know how to actually achieve permanent hair removal in the safest way or the fastest time possible.

Electrolysis is a strangely polarized field. The practitioners practice what they know best, and the teachers teach what they know best. In between you have people who believe that one form of electrolysis works better than others, or worse yet, that others don’t work at all, or are less effective. Now here is the funny part. Whereas galvanic, thermolysis and blend are all equally effective WHEN PERFORMED CORRECTLY, they are not equally easy to learn to perform correctly… SOOooooo if you know how to do one, and try to do one that you don’t know as well, it will seem to be less effective, when it is in fact YOU who is less effective. The poor results will tend to cement in the person’s mind that the other method they tried is in fact less effective, and many tend to spend no more time working to better their skills in that technique because it obviously doesn’t work as well. (It is sorta like saying that Manual Transmission cars don’t work, when the real problem is you don’t know how to start and shift one without stalling the car’s engine out. The problem is with you, not the car, or technique. Just imagine what would happen if a Manual car driver tried to drive an automatic transmission car and insisted on moving the stick on the floor as if he were in a standard transmission vehicle, and two footed the pedals as he went along the road. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />)

So like Biggie and Tupac, electrolysis has its East Coast vs. West Coast thing going on where if you go to school on the left coast, you are taught heavy blend and galvanic, often to the detriment of your understanding of proper use of thermolysis, just as a person attending school on the right coast would get heavy rotation on thermolysis technique and theory, but might get only a cursory understanding of galvanic and blend methods.

A good thermolysis operator could clean up in the state of California if one were in a large enough city, and got the opportunity to show people how many more hairs can be removed in the thermolysis modality, while still actually getting more hairs permanently removed per hour than galvanic and blend.

Where there are thermolysis operators who are not achieving high kill ratios, galvanic and blend operators can make out, because client’s would believe that they are getting more for their money, as although they are getting fewer hairs per hour, they would be getting a higher kill rate for the fewer hairs they were having treated.

Now, as for you “fuzzy_in_seattle”, many people are not getting the best, fastest care in hair removal simply because their electrologist is too afraid to talk honestly to them about the best way to go at permanent hair removal. Why? Because it is a conversation about money!

You see, since we get paid by the hour, any talk about how you should go at your treatment, is in fact a discussion of how much money we will be paid, and how quickly we will get paid that money, even though we are not actually discussing that fact. An electrologist doesn’t know how much you can afford to pay, how much you are willing to pay, and most of all, doesn’t want you to think that we are actually trying to vacuum money out of your pocket when we just met you for the first time 5 to 60 minutes ago.

With all of this in mind, most just ask the client, “How long do you want to go for today?” and later ask, “When would YOU like to book your next appointment”, instead of saying, “The quickest way from bear to bare is for me to see you as long as possible as frequently as possible for the first 3 months, and then reduce time and frequency from there. If we do this, you will be spending a lot more money up front, but you will spend a lot less total money over the long run, as you will get finished with fewer total hours of work needing to be done, and we will miss fewer hairs as they cycle in and out of growth cycle, in addition to looking finished a lot sooner than if we did short appointments spread far apart.”

If you want that kind of information, you probably will only get that here, because you are not seeing me, and I don’t make any money off your treatments, so I can afford to tell you that without dealing with you thinking that I am just trying to suck the money out of your wallet, or that I need to make a payment on my boat slip fees and you look like just the sucker to get that out of.

Of course, in my practice, I tell all my male face clients that if they are serious about removing a male beard they should optimally find a way to do 20 hours in 6 weeks or less, so I can get to first clearance in the fastest time possible, and then we can maintain it from there, and they can look finished from the beginning.

See how a good thermolysis practitioner in California would get business like this guy’s in a heartbeat?…SSID=#Post34094

Not trying to get others pissed off at you, James–lol! But I can understand the controversy. People tend to be partial to whatever they can do best. The Biggie, Tupac–East coast vs. west coast analogy seems appropriate and cracked me up.

Thank you very much for the informative (and entertaining) post!

I won’t comment more on that as a newbie–I don’t want to start any controversies with my first posting/thread. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I saw a lot of what you speak of in terms of electrolysis being a polarized field. I spoke with some in the field that didn’t even realize the potential of their business–or what they could do with it. One young woman I spoke with had given up and returned to school for nursing. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Her employer–another electrologist, had encouraged her to do so, because she was unhappy in her practice due to issues with carpal tunnel, and people leaving her to try laser. I didn’t get the sense she was reinvesting in her practice with newer equipment or ergonomics.

I’m curious, is it possible to work part time in this field (ie. 20-30 hrs.)? Or are most primarily full timers?

If it isn’t too personal of a question, how much debt does one go in to for electrology study and to obtain appropriate equipment? How long would one carry the debt?

What kind of person enjoys this sort of work?

Thank you again,
Stacy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I don’t know why there are such few eletrologists in California, but I have some theories.

Laser is pushed out here big to men especially; and the cost of living is high, which makes it harder to make a living off “discretionary spending”

If a person marketed electrolysis to men properly and spent money up front on equipment to make them most efficient, they would tap a goldmine IMO.

You don’t know how many men call around looking for an electrologist and get greated with "I don’t treat men! <CLICK>

Oh my!!! That’s awful… It didn’t occur to me that men would want electrolysis (other than those that are transgendered), but now that I think of it, of course they would.

I’ve known women massage therapists that stopped taking male clients, unless by referral or client recommendation. That was primarily because they rec’d so many odd calls from guys seeking sexual services. Even a few that they were giving a service, and the guy suggested he wanted something ELSE. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />(yes, in 2005–it still happens). But even they didn’t just hang up like that, unless of course someone says something lewd or suggestive on the phone…

Wow. I’m kind of blown away right now. Don’t know what to say.

Men want and need electrolysis, too. I have never had any problem treating men. I guess if something lewd happened and I worked in an office by myself, I may re-think who I accept as clients for safety reasons. That’s a big reason why I decided on a business plan where I practice in a busy physicians office, just so I feel comfortable treating anyone.

The common areas where men ask for treatment are the ears, the gabella (part between the two eyebrows) to correct the unibrow, shoulder’s and upper arms and yes, even the whole back.

Men are great clients and I feel sorry for the man that hears that phone CLICK from a a professional electrologist who could serve him well.


Regarding your comment on few electrologists in certain states: Many who would like to administer electrolysis review the cost of education and the curriculum and then decide to go into nursing where the demand for their services is high and the benefits tend to be very good.

Regarding the comment about the large number of female electrologists who treat women only:

I have a doorman and I often have people working in the computer-office room. If I didn’t have that situation, I would not treat men - in other words, if I were totally alone - I would not treat men.

Throughout history and to date, men have exhibited behavior that make women cautious. I have not yet come across a man who did not understand this.

Hi Dee,

I appreciate your response and input! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

That sounds like a great idea in terms of a location for your business, one that allows for visibility (and a level of personal safety). Good for you! Was it tough for you to find a physician’s office open to having an electrologist in (or near) their office?

I work with family practitioners actually, five women and three men.

Wasn’t tough at all to come by. They value my services and leave me alone to do my thing. I just re-negotiated rent and a few other odd’s and ends today and I’m filled with incentive to stay there. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


That’s wonderful–Congratulations on your renewal!!

If I may ask, did you approach them about renting the space after you completed your training? Did you know them previously or did you just go out and approach places that seemed like good locations?

I did approach them and yes, they were receptive to offering this service to their patients. I work within The Ohio State University medical center system and I did know a few of the doctors before I asked, so that helped a lot.

A couple months ago, when I was exploring other options because things were being “re-aligned” in the Family Medicine Department and I didn’t know if I would still be needed, I found very little interest from dermatologists that did laser hair reduction, even after I explained that many laser clients still need electrolysis for hair that is left unaffected after several laser treatments. The arrogance was underwhelming and haha, I see a good deal of these dermatologists ex-laser clients.

So, there is more of a chance if someone knows you and they politely give you the opportunity to explain what you can offer them.


Thank you for answering my question, Dee. If I may ask another, what inspired you to pursue this line of work?

I’m an ex-electrolysis client, meaning, I have had no need for treatment anywhere for many, many years because I have no offending hair to treat anymore. Having gone through this and knowing how permanent hair removal made my life so much better, I decided that this is something I wanted to do.

I also like to work with my hands, but most of all, I enjoy very much providing a service that not many people can provide. I am asked if I ever get bored removing one hair at a time, day after day. My answer is a staunch , “No, never!”

The bonus and biggest perk I get from this job is learning about what other people do and how they think. While doing my thing, I learn about a new grading system from the school teacher, or from the diabetic nurse, what the new advances are in diabetes therapy and care. I think I can plan a wedding without the pitfalls after listening to the Mom who is planning her daughters wedding. It’s fun to go to work. Even though I don’t like to talk that much when I work, some clients find it very soothing to talk to me during treatment, when appropriate. Obviously, one can’t talk while I’m pressing on their upper lip!

Thanks for asking.


The arrogance was underwhelming and haha, I see a good deal of these dermatologists ex-laser clients.

I had a female dermatologist once ask me what I did for a living. (Now that I think about it, that was a strange question coming from her) and when I told her, she smuggly, dismissively said, “That’s a dead profession, the LASER has ended that all.” I politely explained to her how she was not in posession of the full facts, and she defensively shot back that she was taking her mother to a LASER person the next week to end her facial hair problems forever, and would not hear of any such talk from me. I gave her my card and said, “Call me in a year and let me know how that is working out for you two.”

A year later, I asked her how her mother’s hair removal was going, and she tersly answered, “We are still working on that” and would discuss it no more.

Two years later, I happened to see her in a SuperMarket, and as I smiled and went to greet her, a look of terror and recognition crossed her face, and she made a get away before I could get close enough to say hello. I stood there laughing to myself as I thought, “What’s the matter, can’t face up to an I-told-you-so?” <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />