Magnification, the ultimate question....

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#1

So I’m at school, I had posted before I was worried about seeing. Yep, can’t see follicle openings. None of the magnifying lamps are labelled, but I’ve used a couple different ones with varying success. Still working on myself so guessing and missing is not optimal, but not a deal breaker.

The question… If I buy a higher diopter lamp, does that work the same as loupes? ie, the higher the diopter the shorter the working distance. Amazon has a few that I would buy just to try, especially since I’m here for another week. I’ll come back again later, but I want to try my best next week and I’m really stressing over this.

#2

I started over with an 8 diopter lamp. That was the minimum which allowed me to work reliably - but i was already older than 50 and i have two very different eyes which apparently makes me more dependent on really good magnification than many others.

If i was You i would start with such a loupe lamp and save my money for the real thing. Good visuals ease proper insertions - and thats a lot more important than any super duper multisynchblendflash epilator.

#3

I want only to clarify that Diopter and Magnification are two different things.
Here is the equation to convert Diopter to Magnification:
M=D/4+1, where M is Magnification of the device and D is the Diopter.
So, if we have 3 Diopters lamp the Magnification will be merely 1.75X. 5Diopter and 8Diopter lamps will have respectively 2.25X and 3X Magnification. For me this magnification is not enough.
I absolutely agree with Beate that the visual device is the most important thing in the electrologist office. The best is a surgical microscope.

#4

Julie Jacob
To answer your question.
Yes, the working distance of the lamp depends of the Diopter/Magnification. The higher Diopter the less working distance will have. I worked with 3 and 5 diopter lamps and the working distance for 5D was…OK. I suspect that 8D lamp will have not very comfortable working distance to work with.
Next step is to use binocular loupes mounted on glasses. They have fixed working distance. When you buy the loupes, you can choose the working distance. You should move your head up or dawn to stay in focus. I skipped that step and went directly to microscope, so I have not experience with that loupes.

#5

Somehow this seems overkill, lol

#6

@dimi: the 8D lamp is still pretty usable, even better than cheap 8D loupes on the glasses (those have a working distance of about 12 cm, less than four inch). I have been using those as well - and well, while it is possible to work with them it is not good for back and shoulders.

I am now using an (expensive) set of loupes with 6X magnification and headlight (Heine HRP). Worth every Euro, and there are only few situations where i would prefer an even larger magnification or additional lighting (which i have available, too).
The cheaper chinese 6X loupes with 34" working distance are usable as well, but it is really ugly, and i doubt the headlight offered to them really fits on the device. I have one as my backup.

#7

Microscopes are not overrated! They help me clear my clients much faster as I have a precision that only a surgical microscope can offer. When I finished my electrolysis training using a magnifying lamp, I knew my next step was to find a microscope for my practice. As I get older I realize how fortunate I am to have made this investment for my practice and ultimately my clients.

#8

How about this $12 500 microscope: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Carl-Zeiss-S3-OPMI-6-SFC-Opthalmic-Microscope-W-Foot-Switch-for-Eye-Surgery/263083882816?hash=item3d41057940:g:5KcAAOSwIhxZZR~K

What magnification do you think it has? If someone wanted to lend it to you, would you use it? Or would the magnification be too much and slow you down?

Are there any digital microscopes that don’t have an unacceptable lag time as the $20 ones do? I was thinking maybe you electrologists would be willing to use one, but they are too expensive (like $100 000 or something, so that’s why none of you use them). Any digital microscopes that have LESS of the lag time that the Celestron $20 100X ones do?

#9

If somebody is interested Dectro sels this digital vision device for about 4000 CAD.
http://www.dectro.com/en/new-products/opti-vizion-system-sd-10x-27-0020

#10

I’ve seen it. It was quite expensive as I recall.I wasnt really a fan.

#11

The problem with any digital microscope is not only the “lag time”.They are mono not stereo microscopes and they lack of depth of field(DOF). This is the same as to work with only one eye.
The maximum magnification which any electrologist will ever need is 20X-25X. The most useful range is between 5X and 15X using surgical microscopes.

#12

Kim Gerry, can you post a picture of your scope?