Low Cost IPL Hair Removal Works!

I am new here and I had posted my experience with a low cost IPL home hair remover here as a response in this forum at http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/88739/Espil_BSL_10.html#Post88739

Well, sorry to tell ya, I don’t necessarily agree with your point of view. I would say, these machines really do work and I can testify this. Even though they are cheap and small, they would work. I had read earlier about Dr. Gold’s research on this for Low Energy IPL home hair removers and it said 95% of the users are happy with their results with average hair reduction of 75% or more. If it not were like that, these companies would have gone bust eons ago. Imagine, for the price like this, anyone would be absolutely thrilled by a 75% reduction. I would say, so far as my own friends are concerned, I would recommend myESPIL ( which is the same product that is cheaper and backed by solid support & guarantee (myespil.com) ) since I personally own this beauty of a machine (so i’m biased) and it really did wonders for me. Yes, if your claim were true, you have got to explain for the 90% of the hairs in my legs that I lost in just 3 months of using myespil…
The best thing is no one has noticed that I undergone any treatment and my friends forgot the fact that I used to have hair. All within 2 to 3 months. I get a high when they say, like “you used to have hair on your legs?” It also supports a wide range of skin & hair tones.

Thought this would be helpful…

I really want to debunk this myth…
Let’s join together and help those companies that are striving hard to make IPL hair removal be more affordable for everyone. I don’t want to spent few thousands just to get my hairs removed. I am a testimonial that it works and I need you guys to come forward and join in this conversation and post your comments on how these low cost hair removers worked for you.

It worked for me… 90% hair reduction in just 3 months and never grew back. I used myESPIL from myespil.com

Share your story with your DIY IPL home hair removers. Make it affordable for everyone not just the rich with a few 10 grants to spend for this…

Totally agree with you… Even though I followed this forum for a long time, I just joined this forum to post this message. Among the forum full of complaints, it is good to see a thread for positive reviews about low cost DIY IPL machines. I can say I too am a proud user of such a device…

Whatever you do DO NOT order Nono! When your up late at night watching TV it seems like a good idea but it’s a piece of China made crap!

i had ordered e-one before and i never used it for a few months and when finally i used it, I got some results. Then after some time one day it broke. the e-one so expensive to repair the warranty finished already. i think better buy a cheap one now.

Yes, I second alyssajonesms. Go for Viss, I ordered it 3 months ago and it seems to work great. I also own myespil and tria too. And depending on your hair type and skin color, you can get it like almost 90% hair reduction. I like the viss because it’s so gorgeous but go for myespil if you want something cheap. Tria’s good too, but it’s laser and not IPL, battery powered and so much hassle - the charge does’nt last long - and expensive for a hand held thing. I prefer flash lamps.

Thanks mannli. the battery was the reason why I did not choose tria, but I was looking for the most cost-efficient one anyway. So I went with myEspil and am glad that I did that. :slight_smile:

Based upon extensive research, I actually purchased the IPL600, and I’ll report on my progress using quantitative results (the best I can on a controlled section of hair). I do not work for the company, supplier, distributor, third party or represent it’s interests in any way.

I actually know a fair bit amount about optics, lasers, light (day job) and want to dispel some half-truths in this thread.

Before dismissing IPL therapy, read the following study:

It details hair removal efficacy at 24 months after the last treatment, with an observed efficacy of around 90% in most subjects.

The goal of any hair removal process is to create enough heat in the hair structure to damage the hair follicle. This results in shedding of the hair and after enough treatments, the follicle is sufficiently damaged that it will not produce hair root and shaft. This can be done with any number of methods that cause enough localized heat in the area, without damaging other areas of skin.

The comments about laser as more effective (and the reasons stated) are inaccurate. A near-IR diode laser outputs at 808 nm, Nd:YAG outputs at 1060 nm, and alexandrite around high 700 nm (appears as a dark red). A dark hair follicle will absorb equally well any of these wavelengths; the shorter the wavelength absorbed at closest to 100%, the more energy being absorbed. Light colored hair, regardless of output wavelength, will be poor at absorbing light, due to lack of pigment. The same goes for the outer most layer of the skin – there’s not much pigment in most people == less light absorbed that gets converted into heat, eventually causing damage. That’s the entire premise behind how all of this works.

Now that that’s out of the way…

Lasers are far more expensive than other light sources because they are difficult to manufacture, keep cool (due to tiny internal waveguides that produce the lasing action) and inefficient at converting energy into light, compared to other methods. That’s why commercial laser systems are so expensive and large – they require lots of cooling, optics, and active elements to generate enough energy to be useful in generating the heat needed to remove hair. The tradeoff is you can get a highly collimated beam of light in a pure (monochromatic) wavelength, which is desirable for certain applications (usually precision, directionality chief among them). If you just want to heat something up, (in most cases) a laser is a very inefficient way to do so.

IPL devices, producing a broad spectrum of light, in contrast are much less expensive and can produce a much higher power level than your typical laser (in the 100’s of watts, compared to most lasers in the 10s of watts). Most light in the visible spectrum gets absorbed by dark hair (that’s why the hair looks dark – black color is the result of most all visible light absorption). As long as the output is filtered to non-UV (which can damage cells DNA) and far IR (which does not get absorbed and penetrates too deeply), the visible wavelengths get absorbed by the hair, generating heat. Because the broadband nature of the light (many wavelengths) and overall higher power, it makes for far more effective heating.

An even better way to cause follicle damage is to use carbon dye on the area of hair removal, after the hair is either shaved or waxed. Carbon is very efficient at absorbing nearly all visible wavelength light, and by entering the follicle greatly increases the amount of heat generated in the area in response to that light. That’s why many laser hair removal experts now suggest this technique in lieu of higher power (both laser and IPL). It’s simply more efficient, directing energy where it’s needed.

So what have we learned? Yes, IPL is light and will get absorbed the same as laser light in dark hair. Yes, it works. Yes, it’s medically proven way of permanent hair reduction, with similar or greater efficacy as laser based methods. If someone has had poor success with IPL in the past, it likely boils down to technique or inadequate preparation, similar to what one could say with laser-based removal.

The only thing I’m concerned with this unit is that it’s specifications have been over-exaggerated, or the flash bulb or driver is of low quality. I’ll be testing it myself, prior to treatment, to see if that’s the case. But as long as it produces even half the power of its maximum, the concept has been proven to work and the theory is 100% scientifically sound.

Cheers,

Jonathan

I own the Tria nad Viss. Tria worked faster and better for me. I have dark hair and light skin.

Jonathan can you explain more about the method using carbon??

just got one ESPIL machine from iespil.com and paid $299 only:) cant wait to try it out!!

And we can’t wait for your reports and pictures on its use 6 weeks, 12 weeks, a year and 2 years out from first use.

I hope no one actually reads this thread and thinks these people are for real. They clearly all work for Viss or other at home companies. You said 90% reduction after 3 months which clearly shows you have no idea what you are talking about and anyone that knows anything about hair removal would know you’re a scam just by that statement. That’s pretty much the equivalent of saying “I was 300lbs, so I started walking 1 mile every day and after 3 days I had lost 150lbs.” It’s just physically impossible.

Stop using the device for 6 months then let us know how much hair has come back.

I’ve got the Philips Lumea IPL system and Boots Smooth Skin, they’re quite good but I wish the results were a bit better. They’ve worked on little areas but still leave quite a lot of hair, I’m not sure if it’s because they need the hair to be in a certain phase to work. I use the Philips one on me legs, there’s some tiny patches where the hair is reduced but I don’t know why it’s not working on the rest of my legs. It doesn’t seem to work on my upper lip or chin. I wonder if there’s a better IPL or laser home kit out there.

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Well, a home IPL device is effective when used for removing extra hairs in face, hands, legs, armpit, bikini line, etc. The effect is varying depends on different kinds of skin tone. For white skin with black hair group, the removal effect is very visible. Since the working principle of IPL hair removal is to use intense pulse light to de-active or destroy the melanin(which is a nutrition for hair growth) in the skin follicle. But for black skin tone, you need to be very careful and needs to apply low engery level gradually in order not to hurt the skin. Due to black tone is easy to absorb the light energy. There are various kinds of Home IPL hair removal devices, like basic one just with IPL, some advanced one is with smart sense of skin tone function to automatically sense the tone and use corresponding energy. Some devices are equiped with ice panel to reduce the pain when flahing or make it somehow painless feel. Find me to help always as we are the manufacturer of Lescolton IPL epilators and i am very glad to share with you.

IPL is in NO WAY effective long term. There is a temorary reduction of hair, but the IPL lacks sufficient energy to permanently affect the hair root on any part of the body.I’ve had many of my electrolysis clients do IPL before eletrolysis, and in EVERYSIGLE CASE the second the IPL treatments stop, 100% of the hair returns within 1 growth cycle every single time. Avoid IPL like the scourge on our industry that it is.

IPL and LASER home devices are underpowered for safety reason and non of them will permanently remove the hairs. When stop using it the hairs will regrow soon or later.