laser hair removal in Estonia

Hello everyone :slight_smile:
My name is Mannu and I write from Estonia, Northern Europe. I am glad that I found this forum because in our country laser hair removal is a so called ‘new’ thing - not much is known nor written about it, we have no forums where people share their thoughts or experience.
I have a pale skin and dark hair. I see LHR as the only possibility to find confidence again. I have put aside some money to do it but I’m not sure which clinic should I choose.
I can choose between 4 lasers used:
Lightsheer ET, ELOS, Candela and also IPL.
The chepest pick would be Lightsheer (lower legs cost around 150 US dollars while Candela’s servise costs around 250 US dollars)so that I’d go for it if You recommended it. I read some topics where people discussed about diferent laser types and I did’nt find Lightsheer ET among others.
ANd I would ask one more question:
I have very fast hairgrowth. for instance after waxing my skin stays hairless for maybe 4 days maximum.
So waxing is not even a solution for me because I get ingorwn hair and the results are not worth it. I want to make sure that the fact that my hair grow back very fast doesn’t mean that after laser hair removal treatments my hair grow back faster than to the patients with slower hair
growth?

I’d be very glad If you found time to answer me :slight_smile:

The fact that your hair to grow rapidly after the waxing is a good indication for you to be a good candidate for laser.

As for choosing the best laser for you, there are people here who know how to advise you better than me. Odi, Romeo, LAgirl, etc …

Lightsheer is a decent diode laser, ELOS is IPL which is mostly waste of money, Candela is a company name that has mainly 2 versions for hair removal which are GentleLase (alex) for light skin and GentleYag (Yag) which is for dark skin. Both of Candela’s lasers are good depending if your skin matches the specific machine that the clinic has.
IPL is… IPL which is mostly useless and we don’t recommend.
There are a few IPL machines that give good results but they are few and are likely to cost just as much if not more than other true laser machines, so you will have to be specific there.

I would only choose between LightSheer and GentleLASE (Candela makes GentleLASE, but also other machines. Which one do they have?).

LightSheer is more difficult to use. I would only choose it over Candela’s machines if you can be confident the clinic knows what they’re doing.

Go in for consultations and ask the settings they’re using. Get a test spot done.

Thank you for answering!

Now I know I have to choose between LightSheer and Candela. I found out that the company uses Candela GentleLase Plus which should be the best laser by Candela, right?
I also can assure that the clinic which uses LightSheer ET knows what they’re doing.

After reading one article about hair coarseness and seeing the pictures I do not know any longer if hair on my legs are coarse enough. It is a problem for me since we have no electrolysis in Estonia…

Lower legs usually get good results. If you can post photos, it would help.

Either GentleLASE or GentleMAX is fine.

Hey!

I finally had my consultation this week. It was far from what I expected because I heared the same things I had read earlier from the company’s webpage. The clinic uses LightSheer ET as I’ve mentioned before.
Anyway, the doctor didn’t do a test patch and when I asked about the joules or pulse widht, she said I shouldn’t worry because they only have skilled professionals… what she did say was that they use more power eatch time, starting with lower settings. Do you think the way the consultation was carried out was normal…?
As I started to distrust the clinic I decided to ask about Epitouch Alexandrite - would You recommend it?

Thanks!

Thanks for providing such a wonderful information. I was looking for such information and found here.

LightSheer is fine in good hands.

It’s not good to start with low settings. There is no benefit to you. You need to have them test your skin to figure out the highest settings your skin can handle so you can be aggressive from the start and get good results in fewer treatments.

Hello again!

I will have my first LHR session tomorrow with Lightsheer. I don’t know if they have the intension to test my skin but I’ll ask for it definitely.
What are the best settings to start with? (My skin type is II-III)
And I would also like to know whether I should exfoliate my skin before shaving with shaving gel and moisturise it afterwards to get better results?

We don’t recommend anything under 25J on this machine for your skin type. Your skin should definitely be able to handle it and higher. Also, they need to use compression. Did they?

No need to exfoliate or moisturize. Just shave 1-2 days prior so that you have a bit of stubble visible.

Let us know how shedding goes in 3 weeks. Whatever doesn’t shed, wasn’t affected and needs a touchup.

Does their Lightsheer have a 9mm or 12mm spot size?

Thank you very much, LAgirl!

I will share my emotions and experience with you.

I had my lower legs treated with Lightsheer ET.
The practitioner used a transparent gel which had to cool my skin. She glided the spot for about 3 cm, hung it up and then glided again for 3 cm and it felt that she rolled over one place more than once.
The procedure did hurt but not very much, it was more of inconvenience than pain. After two days my skin looks like it looked after waxing - I have red dots on my skin.
I was told it is better not to shave between treatments, only the night right before my next appointment. And that the next appointment should be within 4-6 weeks.

I am planning to have my bikini line treated too but I will wait for at least 3 weeks to see how the shedding goes.

What are your impressions?

4-6 weeks is too early. Legs also have long hair cycles. If shedding happens like it should, you shouldn’t have any new hair to treat for 8-12 weeks.

Many glide using LightSheer. The important thing is that they press down when they do. It’s a common issue - settings can be good, but without compression, they’re not effective.

Definitely wait for shedding here first before adding any more areas.

It’s been 3 weeks since my first LHR. About 50% of the hair has fallen out, not more, and I also have pepperspots. I was treated with 25J. It’s interesting that after waxing my skin reacted much more than after LHR treatment.
I don’t know what I should do now because that clinic offers no touch-ups and that makes me really dissapointed.

How much of the hair is actually growing as usual? Pepperspots are dead hairs, so don’t count those.

About 50% of the hair is growing as usual.

Can you find out the settings used? Also, it doesn’t sound like they used compression, which is an issue.

You should ask for a touchup on missed hair (whatever is growing at this point as usual was missed). But I would find out the settings first so you know whether you need to push them to increase them for the touchup.

Hello, LAgirl!

I only know that I was treated with 25J. When I asked about the spot size, she didn’t know, and showed me the spot so I could figure out myself which I didn’t, of course.
And I don’t know whether she used compression or not, supposedly not. Does it mean she had to push the spot close to my skin not just glide gently?

It seems to me I’m in a big mess - when I am gonna try to make clear to them that I need a touchup, I’m left with empty hands.

Yes, she needed to press the laser against the skin. I would call and ask for a touchup with the most experienced person there (who at least knows what a spot size is) and make sure they press!

Now it has been 10 weeks apart and I am considering having a new treatment. I didn’t have a touchup because they don’t offer touchups.

Now I don’t have a clue what to do next. Should I repeat there (because I see some shedding and quite many hair are stuck in hair follicles) or should I go for Gentlelase Plus?
The reason why I am confused AT ALL is that the clinic that uses Gentlelase has much more expensive prices, for instance lower legs with Lightsheer cost 170$ and with Gentlelase 300$
Do people in general get earlier and/or better results with Gentlelase?