what you’re referring to is not a “fact”. by definition, it’s your opinion which you’re basing on your personal experience and the 5-6 people who’ve posted on this forum. hardly unbiased. simple logic makes it obvious that every time someone seeks out a forum at all is to find a resolution to whatever issue they’re having. who ever came here to post for the first time about their great results, after they completed the treatments unless they were here earlier looking for information? That’s even rare because that’s not exactly what you care about if you’re done and happy, let alone don’t want to think about the problem you USED to have. the pool of people you’re basing your “facts” on is not any kind of unbiased study from where you can derive generalizations. the true percentage of good results can only be witnessed by professionals who have been performing the procedure, and well with a proper laser, for at least several years. AND have tested various settings etc and had a control to compare to. Or researchers running studies with a control element. saying 10 or 90% don’t get results really isn’t based on any justifiable facts here.
yes, laser is overadvertised as some kind of miracle treatment, which it’s not. but that doesn’t mean that under the right circumstances you can’t get results. the first Softlight “laser” was removed from the market after 2 years, which is all it took to prove non-permanence. It’s been 6 years now since the current lasers (alexandrite and Yag) have been around. I think that if 90% of people didn’t get results, as they didn’t in 1998 with Softlight, the current laser industry wouldn’t exist either. Laser is not perfect and a not a complete solution if you’re looking to kill 100% of hair in an area. But it’s still a good solution for certain types of people with certain types of hair and expectations/disires, performed well. IF you have correct expectations (usually not exactly presented in the sales pitch. it doesn’t sound as life-changing), you’re more likely to be happy. but that doesn’t happen.
I never post here with excuses for laser. If you read my posts, you would see that. I’m not in the business and I get nothing out of making it sound good or bad. The only reason I stick around on the forum is because it helped me get results as I did my research in part here, and am giving back. you can still find my old posts when I was looking for recommended clinics in my area. while doing that, I also saw many who have had bad experiences with less than knowledgeable techs and lasers. All I do is help those who are already looking for a treatment get the best possible results. I make suggestions based on well-known recommendations in the industry from professionals who’ve been doing this for years - sharing something that’s helped me get good results and hard to find in any other way. I’m bolding this because I’m tired of these useless conversations and trying to open your eyes to the bias and ridiculousness of the argument. I am completely unbiased. I never tell anyone laser is a miracle treatment. I tell it how it is, even if it’s not positive. And I’ve referred plenty to electrolysis if that’s the case. that’s when you see posts on that part of the forum that start with "I was looking to get laser because I heard some advertisements, but was told electrolysis is a better option for me. most laser clinics unfortunately won’t tell them that. i do here. it should be appreciated.
I also don’t understand why people don’t bring up bad electrolysis cases on that part of the forum. There was just a post today from a woman who got her entire face scarred on another. http://www.cosmeticenhancementsforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5073
It happens all the time, but the difference, at least on this forum, is that there are a lot of electrologists contributing, but not enough laser techs (there are a few more on the cosmetic enhancements forum which helps a lot, including those that have been in this for 6 years). The bottom line is that electrolysis takes a long time and it’s also hard to find someone who knows what they’re doing and won’t scar you. It’s even more difficult with laser, and there is more chance of incompetence from a clinic. So people have to understand they’re taking a risk, but not a huge one necessarily, with a probable payoff of getting a large percentage removed faster and more efficiently and cheaper than electrolysis ever can (definitely my case). Everyone should also realize that a percentage on whom it doesn’t work at all - something many money-hungry places won’t tell you. But your numbers are completely exaggerated and not based on anything. What percetage gets scarred or no results from bad electrolysis? that’s never discussed, but happens all the time.
and dont get me wrong, i am doing electrolysis for those areas that laser can’t do. and im sure if i go to a clinic, they will tell me it will work. that’s where research helps. people out there doing laser jsut don’t know what they’re doing a lot of times, but that doesn’t mean the machine doesn’t work well at all. It’s like saying the electrolysis machine was the reason for scarring. No, it’s the person operating it. And it’s a lot more difficult with laser because just pushing a button or 2 doesn’t provide you with advanced technical knowledge to understand what will give best results.
btw, galvanic has an 80% or so killing rate for hairs in ACTIVE growth phase. that still means 2/3 of that amount should have “come back”. what i said above was even based on 100% kill rate. so that doesn’t explain what you’re assuming happened either. I’m not really sure you understand the hair cycles, which makes me wonder how you assumed that laser didn’t work on you at all.
