i am new.

i want to get my face done. but i am very scared. i dont want any scars on my face. i will never do laser after seeing a picture of a lady’s face burned and a picture of a guys back
burned to. so this is the only way. any advice. should i make this leap or not. please help. thank you

burns and/or scarring are not normal. that picture is not from hair removal anyways and there are reasons for it. scarring is possible, though VERY rare, with ANYTHING, including electrolysis if someone doesn’t know what they’re doing. you should be concentrating on finding someone who knows what they’re doing no matter which method you use.

There is a lot of misinformation about the viability of laser for hair removal. The companies that produce the lasers seem to exaggerate the effectiveness while the companies making big bucks on laser treatments also stretch the truth. From what I can gather, the truth is laser works well on some people to reduce the number of hairs but most hairs will eventually grow back. For a large number of people, laser treatments are a waste of money and time. The scientific studies I’ve seen show regrowth rates in the 95% range after two years, even for light skinned people with dark hair. If I were you, I’d find a place that did straight galvanic or blend. Both methods have only a 10 to 20 percent regrowth rate if done correctly. If doing the blend method, have them do mainly galvanic with a short, low-powered thermolysis burst at the end of each follicle treatment. Straight thermolysis or flash thermolysis is only slightly better than laser as far as regwowth rates are concerned. Most studies put the regrowth rate at between 80 and 90 percent. Sure it takes only a few seconds to treat each hair and clearance looks great but what are you really wanting? Do you want something that really works or something that just looks like it works? In my opinion, straight galvanic has always worked with very little scarring, if done right. Blend is fine but practitioners tend to overemphasize the thermolysis portion to increase speed. I’ll take the slow speed and higher kill rate with a mainly galvanic treatment any day.

One thing that I have learned from my experiences from both sides of the probe is that the quality of the work being done far outweighs the modality being used to perform electrolysis. While it is true that galvaniic will have the highest rate of follicle destruction, with blend being somewhat quicker, with a slightly lower effective kill rates for individual, the thermolysis machines are certified by the FDA as being permanent hiar removal as well and offer the benefits of much quicker treatment on a hair-by-hair basis than either of the two former methods.

Thermolysis machines give both a much quicker treatment and do this with a much lower level of discomfort, especially when used by a competent electrologist using good magnification and good lighting. With the newer generation of computer-controlled epilators that use micro-flash and pico-flash thermolysis, it is possible to treat so many more hairs per treatment, much more comfortably I might add, that the total time of treatment will be quicker than with galvanic only electrology.

I use all three modalities in my practice and only resort to galvanic on the deepest and thickest hairs that I have to treat. For the first clearings, I use primarily micro-flash, to get the initial clearance and then will use blend only when hairs get beyond a certain size. (Larger that 5-mil diameter hairs) Even then, I can often get larger hairs with Multiplex thermolysis which combines slow thermolysis combined with microflash pulse(s).

So far, I have only needed to use blend about 15% of the time and galvanic about 5% of the time. It is my experience that micro-flash will deal effective removal of most hairs up to the average male beard growth. The speed of treatment more than makes up for any ineffectively treated hairs. I know this from both working on my clients and from the work that has been done on me over the last several years as well. (Realize that I have had to take several breaks from schedules for various reasons (surgeries and lack of funds during medical leaves of absence), but the areas that have been cleared with thermolysis are still hair free after 2 or more years.

If I was having my facial hair removal done by galvanic, I would barely be through the first clearance on my upper lip and would be spending a lot more money on topical anesthetics. As it stands now, I am at better than 70% clearance on my upper lip and chin in under 6 months. Right now, my electrologist can clear my upper lip in about 25 minutes and spend the rest of my hour on my brows and chin.

Galvanic might have been the best option 20+ years ago, but the technology has very much improved with thermolysis since then and it has become a much better method of permanent hair removal technology - and continues to improve.

Again, just my experience from both sides of the probe,
Joanie <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I think you should have a small area of hair treated first before launching into a full face removal. That way you will know for sure how your skin will react. Otherwise you will be obsessing over every little scab and change in appearance, which will make you more stressed.

thank you everyone. i am going to go through with it.
for guys have been every helpfull

There is a lot of misinformation about the viability of laser for hair removal. The companies that produce the lasers seem to exaggerate the effectiveness while the companies making big bucks on laser treatments also stretch the truth. From what I can gather, the truth is laser works well on some people to reduce the number of hairs but most hairs will eventually grow back. For a large number of people, laser treatments are a waste of money and time. The scientific studies I’ve seen show regrowth rates in the 95% range after two years, even for light skinned people with dark hair.

The first part of your statement is true. However, the last part is completely untrue. Such studies do not exist. I’d be glad to read them should you provide a link. I’ve had both laser and electrolysis myself and can tell you that the hair removed is gone. The business wouldn’t be around if everything grew back for everyone. The reason it IS around is that it does work for people, but only with certain skin and hair types and given specific laser types, settings, and practitioner skill that is rare. However, due to hunger for easy money, the majority of people don’t know what they’re doing and are exaggerating the effectiness of laser on the majority of people.

Here’s a picture of my underarm a few weeks ago after 5 laser treatments and around 10-12 five-minute electrolysis treatments to get the few sparse fine hairs that popped up. I had a LOT of hair to begin with, very black and coarse, probably around 3.5 x 5 inches on each underarm.

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