How many times hairs have to be treated & points!

You know how hair has to be treated several times (2-3, maybe more) before it’s completely killed? (wait, is this right?)

Well, what if you treated the area over the years with IPL and laser, and have been taking spirolactone?

I had my full legs done (well almost, I didn’t have the sides done of my upper legs) with a really good laser and a really good practitioner.

However, it was only once but it did really change the hairs (in different ways) the color, texture, size, length, etc… of most of the hairs.

Now I want to get electrolysis done because I don’t think laser will get the job done for me at this point. Plus it left me with tons of ingrowns with really extremely thin coils of hair trapped within the pink bumps.

Does the excellent laser treatment count as 1 of the several times the hair has to be treated to be killed? Especially if it was really good and really changed the consistency of the hair to be weaker and thinner?

Does the thin, coiled ingrown hairs mean only 1 treatment is required now to permanently get rid of them?

I’m also on Spiro, does this also count for a shorter treatment time?

Is it kind of like a point system in which every attempt to weaken the hair follicle makes for a shorter amount of hair killing permanency with electrolysis?

Like 1 awesome laser treatment done this year + 2 years of spiro + 5 years of on and off again barely okay IPL/laser sessions = hair follicles on the legs killed by 1 treatment of very good electrolysis

I’m concerned about every where, but I’m especially interested in the legs!

If someone can answer all of these questions I’d be really, really happy! :slight_smile:

I can’t answer all your questions. I’m not an electrologist. Here are the answers to few of your questions:

A good electrologist can kill most hair at one go especially if it is fine and in the anagen phase. Max 2.

Spiro can make hair finer. Fine hair needs less current to be killed. So less possibility of scarring. And a higher possibility of killing the hair at one go. And faster results. (Hair which is too fine might actually make electrologist’s work difficult as s/he would have to strain her/his eyes to see the hair)

Spiro also slows down hair growth. And hence, your treatment time may actually increase.

Confused, aren’t you? :stuck_out_tongue: Read the following example:

Eg: If you need 10 hours of work over 6 months pre-spiro to get rid of all the hair in one area, you’d would probably need 8 hours of work over 9 months on spiro. ( Spiro makes hair finer. So less time on the table. But since it can delay the growth, more total time)

Can you answer a few questions:

  1. How many IPL treaments did you have? Which IPL? What settings?
  2. What laser was used on you? At what settings?
  3. You’re saying laser changed your hair. But it did NOT kill it. So you experienced only false reduction-change in thickness of the hair? is the total number of hairs still the same?
  4. What’s your skin type? I’ve read people with Skin types IV or higher can get terrible in grown hairs with laser.

and I don’t understand what you mean by 1 treatment of good electrolysis. You’ll need more than 1 treatment because not all your hair is always in the anagen phase. So if even an electrologist works on all your hair with 100% kill rate( which is next to impossible)in 1 treatment( 1st clearance), you’ll still have some hair after a month or two from the next cycle. You’ll need at least 3 full clearances(treatments).

There is no set formula for how many times a hair must be treated, it all depends on whether or not the stem cells that cause hair regrowth are killed.

Spiro is probably actually working against you when doing laser, because it is interfering with the hair regeneration process (although not completely stopping it). That is likely why you saw so much change in the hairs which regrew, and also why you have so many ingrowns from hairs which have been weakened to the point that they cannot push past whatever is blocking them from emerging out of the follicle.

Whereas a normal hair would have some thickness and rigidity to it that allow it to push through debris or other things that cause resistance, these hairs are so thin and flexible that they just curl up beneath whatever is blocking them. Because they are so thin and probably have little color, those hairs will be next to impossible to treat with laser. They will also probably be somewhat difficult to treat with electrolysis since the curled hair may make it difficult to gauge the proper angle of insertion.