How many electrololgists have tackled this?

I have very fine hair all over my back, so its not overly bothersome, but I would still prefer it gone and am even considering visiting Arizonaelectrolysis.

This poor guy in the photo probably needs to get laser first, but I am curious if any electrologist has tackled such a problem from scratch.

Do you have before and after photos of your success on such a mammoth procedure?

Also, do you get disgusted with that kind of curly back hair on your floor or do you get used to it during electrology training?

The problem the professionals have with replying with the proof you seek is that we can’t post any pictures without permission of our clients. As such, most of us have lots of proof of success that we can never show anyone.

When it comes to backs, I have done backs that were worse than this picture with electrolysis from the start, but I don’t have pictures available to share, due to confidentiality. If you are lucky, you will find someone who has a before and after picture they are allowed to share.

The closest I know of to what you seek is the pictures Fino has on his site at the bottom of the page, although they be of a chest:
http://www.electrolysisinformation.com/costs.htm

I have worked on a similar client like the picture you referred to. He did not live near me so came to me for longer sessions and had his local electrologist work on him as long as her schedule would allow. I could have finished him if he lived closer to me and was motivated. Distance was a problem, so I didn’t know what he ended up doing??? Also, he was ready to move back to his hometown after he graduated from school. Since he never comunicated with me, I don’t know how he ended up.

I have asked several of my men back clients to visit hairtell and disclose their experience, with or without pictures, and I asked them not to mention my name. I don’t want anyone to accuse me of self-promotion and I don’t need the business. They happily said they would be glad to, but I have yet to see any of them follow through. They are busy people, I know, so they probably had good intentions, but it wasn’t on their list of priorities to visit this site. They got what they wanted and it was on with life. If they had complaints, I’m thinking they would have nailed me here by now.

Hair on the floor. No big deal. A lot falls on the table linen and it is shaken outdoors. Some gets tossed in the trash can and the floor gets swifted.

Last point: None of us would be in business for several years or decades if we didn’t deliver permanent hair removal. We can’t post pictures without permission and there are not that many clients that are willing to comply with revealing themselves. Just know, that a business can’t survive for long without delivering the service or product paid for.

Second last point: Regarding the link you posted, tembo, I would have recommended laser hair reduction first and then electrolysis. If the client did not want laser hair reduction, I could have handled his problem, but he would have been told that it would take many, many hours just to get a first clearance and several thousand dollars. If that sounds to steep, then they have two choices - either accept themself as God made them with all that hair or they can use a combination of laser and electrolysis or just electrolysis. That’s all there is in 2009.

Third last point: I strongly encourage you to visit arizona eletrolysis?? as in Boston electrolysis. I assume that is Kim Williams you are talking about? She claims to be a real expert on hair removal, so give her a try. Or maybe you referring to someone else?

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Thanks a lot for the detailed response.

I meant this clinic:

Apparantly, they are getting more favorable reviews than electrology 3000 lately in spite of using only galvanic (multi-probe). It seems like they cause less swelling than electrology 3000 does.

Not sure why your response had so many double question marks and a reference to Kimberly Williams!

Interestingly, I visit hair loss sites, and their are thousands of people who post their before and 1 year after hair transplant photos. Same goes for laser hair removal clinics websites where you always see several before and afters. It seems like electrolysis patients are less willing to do likewise.

Frequently, one has to argue with a beginning electrolysis customer on the need to even take a before picture for your own files. Many only give in when it is pointed out that no court case for failure to deliver as promised could be adjuticated without pictoral progression documentation.

As for doing galvanic only and having less swelling… well that is no surprise. After all, the swelling occurs due to removing a large volume of hair in a small area, with some overlapping treatments. As the hair pattern dissapates, there is less to no swelling, as there is no longer any overlaping treatment zones. Since galvanic would remove 100 hairs per hour or less, one would of course have less swelling, because one is doing less actual hair removal.

Hi James,

It seems like they use a multi probe galvanic method that gets much more than 100 hairs per hour.

Thats why I posted a message about their proprietary SIMPLE method recently, and whether anyone had heard of the clinic.

Are they use two epilators with 15 or 16 probes at a time? Galvanic is pretty slow for a man’s back hair and it certainly is not preferred for fine hair like you describe on yourself.

The simple technique is not new.

Okay thanks for the response dfahey.

Someone did thermolysis on my unibrow and it left major scarring and skin darkening for several years (and the darkening has still not gone completely).

Is galvanic on fine hair not recommended only because of the time, or is there some issue with how well it could work on fine hair?

Thermoysis can handle fine hair. Galvanic is overkill and tooe slow. Also, it would be difficult to kep the probes in place for such shallow follicles.

Can you submit a picture of your scarring?

Thanks,

Dee

Well the scarring at this point is probably not obvious in a photo, but my electrologist said it was horrible under magnification and couldn’t believe that the “expert” electrologist I went to used thermolysis in my unibrow. She said she never uses thermolysis on a face.

I can see the darkening in my mirror up close and can feel a slight dent in there, but see nothing from a mirror at work that is slightly further away.

The scarring was extremely bad for six months post the treatment a few years ago.

You obviously had a poor treatment. It is even possible that the electrologist forgot to change the setting from the back setting to the eyebrow setting.

In any event, thermolysis can be used to treat eyebrows, as long as the proper treatment level is utilized, and the insertion is done well.

I can’t imagine someone doing the SIMPLE technique in multiple probe/needle galvanic electrolysis. In order to do SIMPLE, one must actively move the probe while treating the follicle. If one were doing SIMPLE and Multi-Probe/Needle at the same time, it would require as many electrolysis practitioners as there were probes to insert. (Now there is a crowded work space)

Thermolysis and all variations of thermolysis works quite well for facial hair. Anyone that poo-poo’s this awesome modality, doesn’t know how to do thermolysis - microflash, picoflash or manual with expertise and skill. The S.I.M.P.L.E technique (acronym) is very good, but again it relates to thermolysis and if not performed correctly will cause healing problems for the client.