How do you know it is working + experiment

[Jakey_96]

Hi, I’m actually a graduated/licensed electrologist but I am posting in DIY since that’s been most of my experience. My question is, how do you know if the electrolysis has sufficiently treated the hair? From what I’ve heard and read, you should not feel any plucking, and the root sheath should be extracted along with the hair. Am I missing anything?

I ask because I did a test sample on my legs with my Apilus junior 3G machine. I tried omniblend as well as flash. It was 6 weeks ago that I started the test after about 6 months of untouched hair growth in the area. I also did a “pluck only” area on my leg as a control, but it seems like the regrowth has been the same for each area despite me not feeling any plucking and seeing the root sheath on each hair…?

If it helps I was using level 5 default leg setting, which I believe is 8 seconds and 0.54 mA of galvanic with 11% thermolysis on omniblend (combined/simultaneous blend), and for the flash area I was doing a single 0.10 second pulse at 93% energy. According to the attached image this is 968 EI for the omniblend and 865 for the flash attempt. Apparently Apilus recommends that I don’t go over 800 EI in order to avoid over-treatment yet this seemed to do nothing to affect the hair growth in the area despite being over the “coarse limit”. I found the EI image on this article: Electrolysis Overtreatment - Follikill Electrolysis Toronto

I’ve also attached some images of my leg experiment, I didn’t treat a very large area but I think it shows my point, it’s a 1x1" square that I’ve been painstakingly re-drawing on my legs for the last 2 months. If I had 6 months of untouched growth prior to this treatment then any regrowth should be actual, not apparent I would assume? To me, it looks like around 30-40% regrowth so far and the treated areas honestly look the same as the pluck-only “control group”. I’ll keep this thread updated with future updates and future experiments I do! I hope to eventually become an electrologist and work on others, and I’d like to see promising DIY results first

[Iluv2zap]

@Jakey_96

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You would have to wait 1 full hair growth cycle ( approximately 5 months) to see the reduction. Anything you see coming in before that time is out of cycle hairs that were going to grow anyway, IE apparent " regrowth.
To really see the effect, here’s what you have to do:
First dont touch the area for 5 months. No plucking, shaving waxing,
Clear the entire area in your chosen modality and go after each hair like each one, is the “most important hair of your career, nothing is more important that destroying that ONE hair” . Then Dont touch the skin in the area for 5 months.Then take a picture. Do it all over again Clear the entire area and dont touch it again for 5 more months.do it again. Take a picture before. and a further picture 5 months on.
What you will see is a steady decline with each successive cycle of growth.
Only then, will you come to truly understand the power and effectiveness for your chosen modality.
That process created by, and shared by, one of the greatest electrologists who ever lives. she pops in from time to time.

[Jakey_96]

Thanks for the response! I did leave it for about 6 months prior to the first clearing so I would imagine all of the hairs would have grown for it and been cleared. So why isn’t everything that’s currently growing regrowth? Are there hairs that stay in telogen/catagen for more than 6 months without breaking the skin? I guess that’s where my confusion lies. If everything I am currently seeing is regrowth then I don’t understand why the blend/flash and the “pluck-only” control test look the same, since that would imply the same amount of regrowth so far and thus no difference after a treatment? So doesn’t that tell me already that I am not using enough power? I think my insertions are generally good since I’m quite sensitive to the feeling of bad insertions and I don’t feel anything when the probe enters the follicle.

[M_K]

Its Because your Hairs Growth in Cycles.

im not sure Each treatment you get 15-20% Of your Hairs.

the Usual Break that your Skin can heal, between treatments in like 3-4 Weeks (MINIMUM)

And you must make sure YOU DONT PLUG THE HAIR.

I mean if you put the needle inside… treat the hair… if you want put your hair outside with a tweezer, but the hairs dont come out easily, you should treat it again.

Also a Good Idea (not in facial/throat) area by female peoples.

But for Arms…legs…body… i heared it a lot.

You CAN make it like this.

Before your First treatment (theoretical).

You could like 5-6 Weeks Before the treatment , Wax or use a Epilator to remove your Hairs.

So in theory at least, you Should have most Hairs in Anagen , if you start first treatment.

And 1 Treatment isnt enough to reduce your Hairs.

I see it even on my Upperlip.

After 1 Treatment , feeled like i burned my money had feeled same amount of hairs

2 Treatment the Same.

3 Treatment the same

4 Treatment it started be less. I had no 5 one within now…

but think about it like make a Mix of DIY And Professional . Its too expensive …even in Germany even not in expensive city… some they do it …are kinda Scammer… i mean. You can get a Electrolysis Hour usual for like 80-120 Euro (Each hours) , its fine. But some take like 160-220 or more. Its a nightmare.

And its possible you use to less power, but about this electricity things by blend , i have no clue.
By thermolysis i could say what you should use/test.

Maybe you use also wrong Needle for it, it exist different sizes because different hair thickness.
(just a idea).