I have incorporated another electrolysis into the work I’m getting done on my upper arms, shoulders, and upper back behind the neck. She uses a “Proteus” and I think she uses flash, not micro-flash, electrolysis. She’s really affordable, and very fast. I seem to see alot of decent ends. I have some questions…
Is there a difference in how big the bulbs are? My other electrologist extracts HUGE bulbs. They aren’t always black, but most of the time they are, but I get alot of huge white bulbs too. With the new electrologist I’m going to I don’t see the bulbs being AS big.
What does scabbing mean? With the new person I’m going to I get horrible scabbing just above my elbow on my upper arms, but less in the other areas. She has the machine turned way up she says, and she does not use insulated needles. Could this make a difference? Is it bad that I’m getting scabbing in these areas a few days after treatment for up to a week or two?
How bad/good is 4-5 hairs per minute in the elctrology world? Is that slow or fast or about right? The gal I go to that doesn’t use flash is slower, but I get better results from her than anybody I’ve tried.
The jury is still out how good the new gal is that I go to, but I am optimistic. She has really great hours at night as well that I can make it to, and always has time for me to get in because she is willing to work about any time of the day. I’m now setting up appointments every six weeks and have about 14 hours scheduled in four days between two electrologists. This is finally what I’ve wanted. I’ll have some hair free time, some time I can actually maybe gasp go swimming or boating or something in between treatments.
Is the new electrologist treating regrowth? Those bulbs will be finer if she is. Dark, moist bulbs are favored over white, dry bulbs. If an area that was already gone over is now being maintained, then most of those hairs should be a mixture of bigger and smaller dark, moist bulbs. If you have some gray anagen hair, then those bulbs would be big, moist clear bulbs.
Body work most likely brings scabbing. Depends on equipment used, vison, lighting and practitioner skill. I tell my clients to expect it on certain areas especially. Body scabs are okay as long as they aren’t too big and connecting to one another AND they slough off with a week or two.
4-5 hairs per minute is slower than what I do, but you say she’s giving you results so that’s meaningful. For back work, I can do between 9-13 hairs per minute with microflash. That takes focus and I’m not having a conversation with the client when I’m going that fast. If someone wants to chat and moves too much, then, my avergae will be 7-8 hairs a minute. So, with that answered, it is obvious that you want to stay with someone that can give enough treatment energy to those man hairs so you see nice complete hairs with bulbs that lift out without a big tug. I’m thinking the Proteus is a very basic machine, but if she has the skill to make it work, she can still kill the hair. At least she has a more flexiable schedule. That’s a plus.
I am becoming a little uneasy about these scabs. I was treated on the area just above the elbow on the left arm on 11/29 and then on 12/03 for the same area on the right side. I have what appears to be a few little pits on the left side still to this day. I have really light skin, and even outside of those pits you can still see some little red marks. not scabs, but you can tell it was worked on still to this day, especially the left side.
I guess time will tell. All I know is I’m getting more and more poed at the amount of money I am having to spend. I really think I’m going to need more than 300 hours total. I mean I got ALOT of work left I need. Electrolysis just doesn’t progress as quick as I thought it does…although it does work…just very slowly. January 9th will be the one year mark of the start of my electrolysis treatments and I won’t even have 40% permanent clearance.
I hear you, Chuck. It’s slow, but guys like us don’t have much of a choice for permanent results. All the pain, time, and money, and I don’t know anyone else to commiserate with.
I have little scabs and pits, too, and they are slowly healing. Skin takes a few months to regenerate the layers, so expect some time to pass before it looks like you again.
I should show this thread to one of my male clients who see’s me once a month for less than 50 hairs per side on his ears. At month four, he was actually whinning, uh, I mean, complaining, that he has had four treatments and is not finished yet. He also said this was adding up to real money that he didn’t expect. He pays $32.03 per month. I have gone through the original consult two times now stressing the time factors and hair growth cycles information, but he seems to choose not to hear that part. He couldn’t take what you two are committed to with such loyalty.
The skin will heal and if overtreatment took place, it will take longer. Are these areas being treated by the second electrologist with the Proteus?? Ask your practitioner to make some adjustments or do something so the scabs are pinpoint and slough off within in week or two. Practice good aftercare on your part.
Chuck, we have talked back and forth about the length of time and money you have already spent and you know that you will get permanent hair removal eventually and it appears that it will take you more hours on the table under your particular circumstances. I wish I had the opportunity to look at your situation and take care of you personally, but distance would be another hurdle and expense to handle, something you don’t really need. All I can continue to report to you is there is a way to clear a man’s full back, shoulders and upper arms with permanent results in 12 -18 months. You do not even have the worse case scenario , as you are treating your shoulders, part of your traps and upper arms, and this is why I continue to shake my head everytime you post. The number of hours and the estimated price you have figured is way out of the norm for cost and time estimations for getting the best treatment with the speediest electrologist using the best equipment …BUT… you know what you are talking about, since you are one of the highly informed here on hairtell. I’m so curious about your particular situation and why this is costing so much and taking so long. Did laser really induce that much hair to grow on these areas? Maybe I’m just not imagining your problem very well.
Yeah, the one with the scabbing uses the Proteus. I think the skin will regenerate without scarring, because it is continuing to look better and better…but the whole point of going every six weeks was so I could have some time where I actually didn’t have much hair OR irratation. I could live at least part of my life, but it doesn’t look like it’s going to work out as I planned.
I’m going to sample yet another electrologist soon to see if I can get less irritation.
I really wish you did have the opportunity to treat me too dfahey. I apparently don’t have any quality micro-flash people in my area. I’ve went to 5 different electrologists including Electrology 3000 and the only one I’m getting decent results with is the slowest one. I had the worst results with the microflash on the left side and I wasn’t all that impress with Electrology 3000. I went to another gal that used microflash too, and I wasn’t seeing any ends, so I don’t know what the deal is.
What I really need to do is just pony up and buy a Clareblend machine and do it myself to save me some money. As for laser making it worse…yeah it did make it a ton worse. When I first started laser I didn’t even really care about any hair that I had on my shoulders or upper arms. I had a few light strands that they tried to zap here and there, then boom. The thing is, I have hair on my upper arms and shoulders which is a very unusual place for someone my age. Nobody else really has hair here unless they are extremely overweight and about 50, even then you rarely ever see it. I’m really frightened that when I get older that I might get a full cloak of hair on my back like my dad. Even my dad does not have hair on the shoulders where i do. Because if I did get all the back hair there would be another 20K down the shitter again.
Chuck,
I have a question; How do you DIY electrolysis on your own back?
I still have the Clareblend that I bought last year as a back up machine, and have not used it except on myself. I do know for certain that it does work, but it is not anywhere near as good as my Apilus quality wise.
I would not DIY on my back, plus I don’t have much back hair. It’s mainly a behind the neck, and my shoulders. I have a full cloak of hair on my upper arms that I would DIY, and I’d let my electrologist do the rest. She said she would help me learn how to do it too. I want to get the exact machine she has and do whatever she does because I know what she does works. All I need would be the probes and some sort of magnification device.
I would imagine I could reach about 50% of the hair I neeed to be treated. The hair on my back and shoulders seems to be clearning much better than the hair on my upper arms…for whatever reason.
If you are interested in selling your Clareblend please PM me so we can talk. I can always sell a machine when I’m done with it if I have problems treating myself. I figure if I buy a machine I can save A TON of money, and get rid of some pesky hairs on my chest even.