I may sound crazy, but I need help with a concern of mine.
If someone knowledgeable would reply on this, I’d be very grateful!
Having read a lot on this site, I have a fear of any kind of laser, because of the fact that they stimulate hair growth.
But…
At the chiropractor today, they used cold laser therapy on my jaw area for jaw pain. They only used it for about 5 minutes. I was not comfortable with the situation, but did it anyway.
Now I’m afraid that the laser will stimulate hair growth. Am I wrong in thinking this? Please, any feedback of any kind would make me very grateful.
Thank you…
Hi Linn
My husband is a Chiropractor and I have had cold laser therapy done on my arms and several places for that matter and it has not stimulated any hair growth. The cold laser therapy is actually only for joint pain, and not to get rid of hair. Hope this helps.
There are numbers of devices … many of them “mainstream” … that do practically nothing (and I’m being generous).
Such devices as “faradic” current (now called “micro-current” to comply with FDA rules***), TENS units to minimize pain and, yes, even diathermy … are all more than questionable, but (here’s the good part) they’re most-likely not dangerous. But OH how we love our “gizmos.”
Me too. And I have been a victim/fool of several popular “therapies” … I’m not immune from advertising either.
To answer the specific question about cold laser inducing hair growth, I do not think you would find a single laser expert to disagree that this will NOT happen. You’ll be fine.
http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2010/05/cold-laser-therapy/
(***“Micro-current” is very popular with estheticians; it’s a weak adaptation of the faradic treatments of the 1920s. Faradic current is a rapid “on off” of DC current and causes muscles to twitch. There are tons of variations of this, and people claim that this “twitching” is a way to exercise muscles: strengthen facial muscles and even get “great ‘abs’.” No independent evidence exists that shows this to be effective.
(Besides, facial aging has little to do with facial muscles! It’s all about the aging skin. A wrinkle is in the skin; not the muscle.)
Anyway, the FDA decided that non-medical types couldn’t use said devices if they cause the muscles to move (the “move part” is limited to medical-types). SO, manufacturers lowered the current on their facial devices to the point that, well, nothing happens! No muscles move and … repeat … nothing happens!
A few micro-current manufacturers are friends of mine. I’ve asked them, “What is ‘micro-current’?” Their answer is, “Oh, it’s MICRO current!” They don’t seem to have a clue either, but they DO make the things and sell them at high prices.
Again, these machines are benign and will never be challenged by the FDA … only your pocketbook will be challenged. My next “discussion” could be about the ubiquitous “microdermabrasion” device … another worthless gizmo. (Did you know that this devicee was originally a “dentist’s cleaning device … for dentures?”
We seem to have the wrong profession, don’t we?
Where can i learn “permanent hair removal by laying on of hands” …
I teach it at the community center.For 3 easy payment of $2995.
Also classes in tin-hattery, Vibing the hair away, And turning water into wine or beer.
Seana
The latter is easy if You do it as reported historically: give it to people who have already drunk enough wine…
Anyway if You provide such services or products You must believe in them in order to sell them successfully. Same as for other VooDoo products.
Or - back to topic - homeopathic drugs in large thinnings.
We use yeast, hoops, grapes, barley . If made to the proper potency it WILL make your hair fall out. Or grow some on your chest. It’s a little unpredictable.
Seana
Hi all,
I have a similar query, although about red light therapy. I was considering this to treat my skin post-electrolysis as it is advertised as being great to treat rosacea, pigmentation, fine lines, boost collagen formation etc. However, from my internet searches about this LED therapy, I am left with the impression it, like IPL, could induce hair growth. This is particularly as it has been used to induce head hair growth. Does anyone have any knowledge/information about these kinds of skin therapies? Obviously I do not want to spend 2+ years of my time and hard earned money removing facial hair, to have a couple of sessions of light therapy improve my skin but put me back at square one re the hair. I realise people are more likely to take the time to complain on the internet, rather than praise anything, and people can also see things they didn’t previously, but it does concern me that there could be some truth to it.
Thanks in advance.
It would be very interesting to hear about those “therapies.”
Red Light therapy … (und das Auto: Volkswagen?)
Dr. Kurgis had this “red light” therapy in his office for a couple months to “grow hair on guy’s heads,” (he’s a dermatologist that does hair transplant surgery). The guy using and selling the device told me it was a “red LASER.” LASER!
The unit looked like a laser unit, but where the actual laser itself would be housed in the machine; there was a storage compartment for towels! The silly unit was ONLY an “array of red LED lights,” there was nothing at all in the machine itself. Although the salesman “swore” it was a real laser.
I asked Kurgis about this and he said, “Oh, it’s just a bunch of LEDs!”
So, RED light? Well, red light, nice and pure … is red light! It’s not blue, or green or orange … it’s red. Frankly, the “array of LEDs” on this unit looked a LOT like Volkswagen tail-lights. (They might have been.)
Seriously, I suppose you could buy a couple VW tail-lights and make your own “beauty device? Or if you want a “better unit,” you could probably get a few LEDs from a Mercedes or BMW … yeah, those would be much better!” You can always tell when something is better because it costs more! (I prefer the ones on Audi.)
I have read some material on the benefits of red light … I don’t know. I do know, however, that a person should not spend a fortune on “treatments” when this is something you can surely do yourself!
(I can already see Seana hanging these suckers from her ceiling! Let us know which tail-lights work best? Photo please!)
I could just hook them up to the second speaker output on my boom box…That way they would go off to the music…That way when I do electrolysis the girl can get light therapy at the same time! Surely that’s good for a few extra dollars?
Seana
Is there any point responding to a question if you only have a sarcastic response Michael? My question was a serious one, and if you have no information or advice to give, I would appreciate it if you didn’t bother. I am sure you understand how upsetting it is for people who have skin damage and I have been searching for something non-invasive to try out. I don’t need to be made fun of and told to stick my face in front of car lights to get the same effect. Your mocking tone was not appreciated at all. All you needed to say was:
“I have read some material on the benefits of red light … I don’t know.”
redearthling; I have nothing to add about red laser therapy, but you may find this thread to be of interest.
The red light therapy shouldn’t really have any affect on the account that it’s at a different wavelength than what is being used for hair removal, so the hair shouldn’t absorb any of the energy anyways that would be expected to cause induced growth
Well my Dear redearthling … there was NOTHING in my post about YOU! Actually, NO reference to YOU in my post at all. This was not “all about you!” Good grief!
My comments were directed at people selling naughty MACHINES! NOT those seeking therapy! Geez!
Can’t you see that my post was about those that create questionable therapies? Where did I mention YOU?
And there are certainly LOTS of these “crooks” around! I think everybody else here “got the humor.” And the idea of “machines that promise more than they deliver.”
Maybe I was saving you from spending tons of money on something worthless?
Try some humor now and then; don’t take everything so seriously, humor will do you good. Furthermore, you might be able to do this yourself if you’ve a mind to … you know save some money?
Gosh, people are soooo sensitive about nothing, even when it’s NOT about them! FOLKS, lighten up! CHRISTMAS is coming!
Actually, nobody answered the redearthling question … so, I will.
So, (let me get this straight) you WANT to treat your post-electrolysis skin with “red light therapy?”
My question, (asked without any SARCASM, as you say): WHY would you consider using red light therapy on your skin after electrolysis? What are you trying to accomplish?
Answer that question. Then, you might get a more thorough answer? I’ll try to answer you using NO humor whatsoever. (Difficult for me though.)
redearthling,
Michael is a little hard to understand at times, but I honestly dont believe he meant you any malice.Despite the fact he threw some humour in there, he had a point. And it’s based on actual experience with an actual “red light” unit. Basically, they dont do much, and are largely LED’s in a case from his experience.
In case you hadn’t caught it, he DID take an actual poke at me. You see a few weeks ago someone asked me how I do electrolysis without having to bend over to look in a mirror. This is the answer:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66437553/IMG176.jpg
Yep, tha’t me with a mirror suspended from the ceiling. Creative solutions.
The point is I took it in stride, because no offense was intended and even ran with it a little to lighten things up. He wasnt laughing at you, so much as poking serious holes into alot of the “new tech” hair growth/ hair removal devices, many of which are scams.I honestly dont think he ever would have deliberately laughed at/ made fun of your question, it just wasnt his intent.
Seana
I’m beginning to get a crush on Seana!
Oh gosh …
As Seana mentioned, my “poke” at her was really a “love tap.” I know how hard she’s working and how creative she is with what she’s doing … out of absolute necessity. You gotta love it! Now THIS is creativity and perseverance!
If I really don’t like somebody, I never say anything at all (sometimes I might slip though). And, my “don’t like” list is VERY small, indeed. I don’t think anybody’s on it.
My BEST friends “get a poke” because I like them a lot!
You’re all lucky that I don’t write what I think (I always tone it down) … What I think is like the “Joan Rivers Show!”
“Don’t start with me!”
Michael, I like the way you are. When I want to get formal information, I put the news, a lot of bad news!. When I want to learn something in a fun and entertaining way (without having to decipher hieroglyphics), I come to Hairtell hoping to see some of your new posts.
Since Follizap decided to leave us, humor is rarer here. What is life without a little dose of humor? next to nothing …
Thanks Jossie … I suppose I HAVE to have some sense of fun in this “beauty business” to keep me from crying. Here’s another case in point:
When I was selling my “Telangitron” device, one of the major microdermabrasion companies got interested, and sold the unit for me. I got a lot of inside stories. (Actually, from time-to-time several different companies sold my unit.)
See, they had two versions of their “microderm” unit: one for estheticians and one for doctors! One was blue and one was pink … pink for the estheticians. The cost difference was about $8,000 more for the medical unit … but hey, the “medical unit” was much better, right? AND, if you were REALLY lucky, the company might actually sell you the “medical version” if you could produce any sort of verification. So, what was the difference?
NOTHING! These were exactly the same units … absolutely the same. The only difference is that one was pink and the other blue. Oh, and the medical unit cost $8,000 MORE! (It was real easy to get “verification.”)
I discovered that the suction from any microderm machine can CAUSE telangiectasia on sensitive skin. Upon hearing my opinion (that they already knew about!), they were elated. Now, they could CAUSE telangiectasia and then “clean them up” with another unit … my Telangitron!
It’s all about SALES!