Hair on lower arms coarse enough for laser?

That is not true for me. I passed my 1 year of treatment mark last week and still have a few dark coarse hairs on my upper lip and chin although I had them all treated last year. Either that or I do have a hormonal problem causing new hairs to grow, which is too depressing to think about as it would mean I would never be free of hair.

A few dark hairs? Perhaps those few only cycle in the same time every year and are now available to treat or perhaps they are new and have never been treated. You really will eventually run out of hair follicles that are bothersome. Having only a few dark hairs after a year of electrolysis is a real triumph in itself.

After you are “finished” with your electrolysis sessions, being a woman, you may still require some short pickup/cleanup treatments over the rest of your life. I need a few myself after twenty years of calm, but the hairs are not coarse. I see a lot of middle aged women who had electrolysis 20-25 years ago who are now sprouting NEW hair. This should be expected because of falling estrogen levels. This shouldn’t depress you at all. It is just a fact of life, it is how our bodies work. I can’t think of anything that will give you this much bang for your buck (electrolysis) in the cosmetic industry. These fillers that people get injected into their skin last 4-6 months, hair dye lasts about 6 weeks, a manicure much less. Electrolysis is forever, but it certainly cannot stop new hair that comes forth in a follicle. I will have to be clearer about the 9-12 month statement. In my mind, I was thinking of working on a test area like a man or woman’s arm, the size of a quarter or a little larger, so as to prove a point. A woman’s upper lip, especially so, the MIDDLE upper lip always is the last to go because there are usually tons of hair present and it is the ouchiest part for electrolysis. We have to go a little slower on the upper lip for sensation reasons especially, thus slowing the train down a bit.

Dee

The average number of hours to try an arm in the first clearance is 4 hours in women. 8 hours for the two arms. 2 months would be used by one hour per week. In 2 months you would have hair-free arms. In the second clearance, the hairs are very isolated and do not represent any obstacle to be exposed in public.

I imagine that Beverly Hills corresponds to Marbella, I’m 60 miles away. It is a very selective and only suitable for rich people. But anything that does not guarantee the quality of the Electrolysis that you receive, only guarantees a high price.

If you had received a high quality service, you never would have taken another road. The fastest way to make a person happy (male or female) with excess hair on the arm is by ELECTROLYSIS

This isn’t necessarily true. It depends on the type of hair the person has on their arm. “Fast” is a relative term. You’re ignoring time spent on the table.

I really wish you’d stop pushing your biased agenda on the laser portion of this forum. This portion is for laser questions.

The combination of both modalities is sometimes the best choice. I like to suggest to my clients who have coarse,dense, dark hair on an area, to knock out as much hair with LASER to get the highest percentage of hair possible, then they can finish off the “untouchables” with electrolysis. If LASER is not appropriate for an area, then electrolysis is all there is to help the hairy, since electrolysis can “see” all hair colors, all hair structures from very thick to very tiny, on all colors of skin.

I have some clients that were very pleased with their LASER treatments, but wanted the rest of the hair removed. Inside my head, I didn’t agree that they needed electrolysis, because the hairs were so fine and light that I COULD HARDLY SEE THEM under my magnification! Well, that’s okay as I aim to serve the desires of the hairy and not so hairy. That’s my job and extreme privilege.

Yes, yes, Lagirl, I know that this is not my section.
I am not an expert on lasers.
Only, I am an expert in the appendix of the skin called a hair follicle.
As a deep understanding of all aspects of hair, I felt that my diagnosis of exclusion could be useful to Pekingbuck.

If my memory serves me, in this thread only 2 experts in hair have participated. In both cases these 2 experts in hair who happened to be engaged in Electrolysis.
Where are the hair experts who are dedicated to laser? there are any around here? no? What bad luck that none have helped clear to Pekingbuck let your arms are not candidates for any type of laser. It is very easy to tell the consumer does not, your arms are not suitable to fulfill your expectations. [size:26pt]NO[/size]. A simple word that needs no translation for it is universally known.

Sometimes word that is not declared it´s more illuminating than the words of a biased person.

Ah by the way, you have been the first to write the word Electrolysis, another word that needs no translation.

Josefa

I have no problem with electrolysis. I’ve had it done on half a dozen areas. I’m not biased to any one method.

You should read what Dee said above. That’s the stance that you should be taking once you let go of your baseless bias.

Just knowing about hair is not enough to judge laser effectiveness. That’s like saying that knowing about metals in an engine make you an expert on how to drive a car. You actually need to learn how the car functions and how the engine works to make the car move, and then actually get behind the wheel at least once.

There are plenty of laser professionals who post here. You haven’t even been on the forum for a year yet. We’ve all been here for over 5 years and have seen many people come and go. Run a search for posts by SSLHR and DETIGWA.

This isn’t necessarily true. It depends on the type of hair the person has on their arm. “Fast” is a relative term. You’re ignoring time spent on the table.

I really wish you’d stop pushing your biased agenda on the laser portion of this forum. This portion is for laser questions. [/quote]

Amen to your statement LA girl :grin:
and to depilacionelectr since you said you are NOT an expert on laser then you should NOT be making comments about laser

We understand depilacionelectr that you do electrolysis for a living and laser of course threatens your business so of course you’d be biased to electrolysis and dislike laser. You just have to realize that this section of the forum is for laser hair removal, not just hair removal in general. Meaning people are here because they want to do laser. Sure some may never have heard of electrolysis before, but I don’t think I’m alone in thinking that for a lot of people, they do laser because it’s easy, especially for guys. Meaning, a lot of guys don’t like hair on their chest or what not. Do they dislike it so much they’ll go do electrolysis to remove it? Most likely not, but go for a 20 minute appointment for laser and it’s gone? Then why not? Even my girlfriends I always tell it’s $60 go do your underarms never shave again! Almost all of them keep telling me naw I don’t mind shaving not really worth it for me.

So my point is that people on this forum pretty much are here because they are looking for laser. Yes some of them are misinformed and haven’t started research, so they don’t know that laser can’t treat light or blonde hairs, and that’s where we give them the information they need, and where your assistance can greatly help. But for people with dark coarse hair, where laser can wipe it out quickly, and cheaply, it’s not fair to basically lie to them saying electrolysis is faster.

Take myself for example, 3 sessions on my forearms with laser. I have NO hair on my hands anymore, and I’d say a 50-60% reduction in hair on my arms, with the hair that remains being shorter, finer, and from 3 feet away from me almost impossible to notice where as before I had lots of hair there you’d clearly see. 3 sessions at $100 each = $300 so far, with a total of maybe 20-30 minutes per session so lets say 1.5 hours. So $300 and 1.5 hours to get a HUGE reduction on my forearms, enough to make me super happy. I counted the hairs in one square inch the other day (after my 3 laser sessions keep in mind, so lots has been removed) and there were about 30 hairs. I figure there’s around at minimum 75 square inches on each arm that’s been treated with laser, so 2250 hairs on EACH arm or 4500 hairs on both arms. Let’s say the electrologist is amazing, can do 900 hairs per hour. 4500/900 = 5 hours. Most places are $60 per hour which is $300, same price I paid for 3 laser sessions and this is only for 1 electrolysis session. Now, maybe I’m missing something here and maybe the result after that 1 session would be better than 1 laser session, but 5 hours for one session? I don’t hate my arm hair THAT much to sit through that. I just fail to see how you can say electrolysis is faster than laser, which is really misleading to people who’ve never tried either…