Had Diathermy earlier on chin area... scared now!

Hello,
Im a 25 year old male who had a horrible drawn out experience with IPL treatments on my goatee over a 2 year period. Patchy regrowth kept occurring, so I stopped last year, and prayed the hair would return to a point where it would not be noticeable. Well, it hasnt worked out very well on that front.

I went today to get electrolysis done on my chin area to remove a number of dark, thick hairs in order to try and make the chin look somewhat even, as it is very patchy still. The treatment hurt, not exceptionally, but it did hurt. When I got my after care instructions from reception, they gave me the ones for diathermy!

All I can say is that I now have raised bumps on every part of the treatment area, it is highly noticeable, red and swollen looking. I think it was a Sterex machine, but I didn’t do enough research and now I’m terrified that once again I have been screwed over by one of these clinics. This one was recommended to me, so I thought I would try it. Only now do I discover that if thermolysis is used on dark, course hairs, it will probably scar in the wrong hands.

What should I look for in the coming 48 hours or so to know whether or not this has been a complete botch job? The area is cauliflower-esque right now… help!

Try not to worry too much, it’s too early to tell whether it was a botch job, to use your words…I had the same problem when I started electrolysis on my face, I looked very lumpy. I did also however get scarring on the way too (and I saw people who came with good recommendations)…what I’m trying to say is that I don’t think swollen bumps are indicative of a bad job since some people have a stronger reaction and are more sensitive to treatment. Maybe I am wrong, but this is what I think from my limited experience.

But the research part is really important! If you are in the UK (which I imagine you are since you mentioned Sterex) I would rather stick to blend than thermolysis, I think the chances of scarring are less that way.

In my humble opinion, based on the 10 or so people I had treatments from, skilled electrologists are rare in the UK and it’s frustrating and difficult trying to find one. I’m thinking that it is best to minimize the risks of scarring by having blend instead of thermolysis…am I wrong?

Thanks for the reply Sojou. Having slept on it now, I woke up and the swelling has gone down and I’ve been applying the after care cream. Still a little bumpy, I’m hoping it further improves by tomorrow for work. Its a lovely day, do I really have to stay out of the sun? I had little more than 10 hairs removed, would an SPF of 30 on that area be of any help for this, or should I just forget it?

Any modality of electrolysis, when used by an incompetent, uncaring or clueless electrologist can cause scarring. Galvanic, Blend and Thermolysis (diathermy, shortwave, high frequncy) ALL CAN CAUSE SCARRING. It is not the method used, it is the human being who is directing the treatment that causes the outcome. It is not the pencil that misspelled a word, it is the human being writing with the pencil that caused the misspelled word. It is not the SUV that ran over the man on the sidewalk, it was the human being driving the SUV that caused that outcome.

JeanomeProject (interesting name??) What you experienced is PROBABLY normal for the your hair structure, with the epilator used. We call these temporary skin manifestations. These should disappear in a week or so. If more electrologists would use the powerful, fabulously designed and engineered types of professional epilators that are readily available today from Apilus, Silhouet-Tone, Fischer, etc…, with the correct probe size and type, a man’s beard, like you have, can be treated with the level of competence and satisfaction you would be thrilled over.

Now back to reality. This is not the norm worldwide- YET- and you happen to be planted in an area on this earth where you probably don’t have these choices. In lieu of the perfect setup with a well trained electrologist, the best thing you can do for yourself is observe your skin reaction and give your electrologist feedback OR check out every electrologist in your area and compare skin outcome and sensation. You should not expect your skin to look like it did before your treatment. Expect some pinkness / redness, swelling that can last anywhere from minutes to hours - even a few days. Use witch hazel, aloe vera gel and tea tree oil for the first three days after treatment.

Sorry for your IPL treatments outcome and the expense and time you invested in trying to solve your unwanted hair problem. You are young. You are still developing hair patterns, so be on top of this. Yes, electrolysis can can even things out, but can the person working the equipment do this well for you? Be alert if you have clear fluid leaking out of your skin and big scabs that last for weeks after a treatment. Not good. Be tolerant of temporary swelling and redness that subsides within a week or 10 days.

I don’t know what your goals are for hair removal/reduction on your face. Perhaps you can continue with a real laser like an alexandrite to remove the rest of the hair, but you will still need good electrolysis care in the end, but at least the hairs should be thinner and thus less intensity and timing will be needed to permanently affect those remaining hairs. Less intensity and timing equals less skin reaction.

Temporary skin reaction is not the same as permanent scarring.

Dee

Thanks for the considered advice Dee. I will monitor the area over the next few days and see what transpires. I asked my younger brother if he saw any weirdness on my chin, and he said, ‘nah, not really, why?’ The again, he’s 18 and probably too laid back to notice things like that.

One of the bumps has a whitehead now, I don’t know if thats a bad sign or not. Other than that, the bumps and swelling are still there, but drastically reduced from yesterday, so I guess it will be very hard to know yet if I got scarred.

The whole day was a chastening experience I have to say, the only places that do this kind of thing here are salons and so forth, and the girl who treated me must have been about my age. Which I didnt feel comfortable with off the bat, she must have thought me a complete fool for trying to reduce my beard.

I have no desire these days to eliminate my facial hair, I actually would love to be able to grow a beard. So I made a naive error when I was younger and I’m paying for it now with the patchy regrowth in and around the goatee area. The only reason I went to electrolysis yesterday was to clean things up a bit on the blotchier areas. After how it went, I don’t think I want to go anymore, but I will wait and see what regrowth occurs, and if the blotchiness improves.

If you use Tea Tree Oil it will dissolve the puss overnight, and you won’t have any whiteheads in the morning.

It sounds like a temporary reaction. I really wouldn’t worry about it that much. Get some tea tree oil as suggested and apply at night. During the day, apply witch hazel a few times a day. Don’t apply Neosporin or anything oily - you don’t mention what you’re applying now.

Like Dee said, it’s not the type of electrolysis used that can cause issues, it’s the person doing it. And it’s also on you to use proper aftercare and to keep the area dry and clean while it heals.

10 hairs is really easy to take care of with a good electrologist. I really wouldn’t give up just because you went to someone inexperienced.

Where are you located? Have you run a search on this forum for other recommendations in your area?

I didn’t mean to imply that scarring is caused by a particular modality…sorry :stuck_out_tongue:

For me all I can say is that my skin seemed to scab less with blend than with thermolysis and that I therefore had less scarring when I had blend. I don’t know why this is and can’t explain but it was something significant I noticed.

Anyhow, maybe my ramblings ought be posted in a more appropriate thread…I’ve been intending to write my experience (it’s not all bad!) for weeks now, hopefully I will get round to it this weekend :slight_smile:

As we have said for years here, the reason most people think thermolysis is so much worse is that since it is the last thing one would get good at, if one were learning all 3 modalities, it is naturally the thing that more people are doing less than the greatest work doing. (Does that make sense? Those who try to learn only thermolysis without learning galvanic and blend, and getting good at them first, are doing the equivalent of trying to learn Long Division without having mastered addition, subtraction and multiplication first.) Better equipment and skill would make the difference here if the aftercare were not the culprit.

In any event, you should heal up well, and live your dream of a hair free, care free life.

Feel free to keep your whole story here in this thread. It will make it much easier for people to follow.

In the UK the CPE equivilent is membership of The Institute and Association of Electrolysis. DRE or BAE are the best qualifications to look for.