Finer hair being treated first?

Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
#1

I have had 4 15 minute sessions done. Two hurt and two weren’t bad. I have dark stubble all over my face. She likes to treat the fine hair near my chin first. She has been doing these spots for weeks. When I ask her to move more up my face she does. The spots near my chin hurt the most, the more down my face the less it hurts.
I was wondering if this is the method must electrolygists use? They start with one section even if the hair is finer there, then move towards other. It’s like a process and keeps lessening the hairs.
I just want my courser stubble removed already. These spots don’t hurt as much. The spot she is doing I usually just leave alone. She says she has a method and she will get to other areas. It’s just annoying she does my least problem area first. It’s like I have all this hair and she targets areas with fine hairs.

I will keep telling her to move more up my face because I want these areas done already.

I can picture going 30 minutes on certain areas, but not more than 15 on some.

She also still doesn’t use gloves and I never see her wash her hands. She came in for the day and I was her first client, but she didn’t wash her hands.
She uses alcohol on my face while she’s working and that goes on her fingers.

I don’t have anyone else to go to and everything else is great so far.

#2

the number of hairs removed in a session wont change, 15 minutes isnt a long time to get work done. What I think you are experiencing is more along the lines of impatience. The order the hair is removed in wont make a difference in it’s being removed. That said, 15 minute sessions are very short. If patience is an issue, you might connsider longer sessions if you can afford it.

The chin however is an area where clients often experience a lot of regrowth and hairs that werent visible when treated. She may be just trying to get you a head start on an area that tends to be a long process for most electrolysis clients.

The client is always right however, so I would be more concerned if she wasnt adjusting the area you want worked on upon request, but from what you have indicated, she is doing so. Remember you are the “boss” on your hair removal and the electrologist works for you.

No gloves and no scrubbing doesnt work for me but if its your only choice then it’s your only choice.

Seana

#3

Well right now I wanted to do 15 minute sessions. I am still getting used to it and I have a job this month where I see alot of people, so I wanted to keep the reddness down. I don’t experience much redness though.

I will go to 30 minute sessions next month.
Well I don’t have much hair around my chin and I don’t tweeze, so those are the hairs. I have seen minimal regrowth so far. Hair comes in finer.

I just want her to do other areas. It’s like she targets the fine hair areas when I have so much course hair.
I will keep telling her where I want it. She just tells me she has a method.

#4

Those areas with fine hair are more painful too. I also sometimes feel some tugging or pulling on course hairs.

#5

I am upset about the no scrubbing, but so far she’s the only electrolygist that has called me back, in my area, right price, seems to know what she is doing and has flexible hours.

She does use alcohol on my face though.

#6

Every electrologist has a different approach… Generally, I try to get the big hairs out of the way first. They tend to be what the client notices most and they get in my way when I’m looking for the smaller ones. By starting big, you also have a much larger impact, especially if you’re doing limited sessions. A lot of times, I clear the big stuff and my clients aren’t concerned about the small stuff (unless they use a lighted 20x mirror at home and turn the tiny stuff into saturn rockets in their mind).

You’re the one paying for the service and, if she’s not giving you the service you want - either because she’s going for hair that doesn’t bother you, because she’s not being appropriately sanitary, etc, I’d suggest finding someone else. You’re paying, so you’re the boss.

That said, sometimes people get a little carried away with micromanagement and end up slowing things down. I was just working on someone that immediately wanted me to do a few hairs here, then over here, then over here, then… was wondering why I didn’t get to the finer hairs in the area that I was originally working on. All she managed to do, was slow me down by having me move around and, in all likelihood, caused herself more pain.

Back to your treatment… if you’re feeling tugging on the coarser hair, she’s almost certainly undertreating them. You can counter redness with cataphoresis + cold aloe (or witch hazel gel) + ice after the treatment. With that triple combo, a lot of people walk out of my office with almost no redness unless we’re doing some heavy work.

#7

I barely have any redness. I feel tugging sometimes. I will definitely be speaking up at my next session about treating the problem areas more. She usually just says there is a method she does and I sometimes think maybe she has a special method and I don’t want to make her work differently then she would. It seems like she likes to make an area flawless before moving on to other areas. She just keeps targeting tiny hairs when I have such bad course areas. I just feel she had already treated these areas and needs to keep working on them to fully treat them. I just need to keep on her. Maybe she wants me to have more sessions that’s why she does non problem areas.
However she is removing hair, I see her taking hair out, just sometimes she gets carried away with every single tiny hair.

#8

There’s a strategy called “clear and advance” and it’s a technique I tend to use a lot on something like an androgenic (male) beard removal when we’re starting and we can’t clear the entire thing in one appointment (usually due to time/financial/pain limits).

In this technique, when someone comes in, you would start in an area and get as far as you can, and then the next time they come in, you’ll start in the same area and go as far as you can, then the next time, the same… eventually, you get to the point where you can clear everything when they come in.

While it would be easy to think she’s using this type of technique, I have my doubts… if you aren’t worried about the area she’s working in or the types of hair she’s working on, she should be working in the area you want her working in, not clearing something that doesn’t bother you. It is your face and your money, after all. If someone came in wanting her chin done, I wouldn’t presume to start working on her hands without her telling me to work there.

#9

Well, my facial hair is male beard like. I’m not saying she is working on an area that didn’t bother me, that’s not true. She is working on an area I want treated, but some hairs she does I don’t really care about.

She seems to want to start at a corner and then continue along the area. I just want my problem area done first, but she just says she will get to it and she has a process.

She did treat an area that I wanted done, but I want her to continue to go outwards to my cheeks. I will continue to emphasize this to her.

It does seem like she is continuing to treat the area and get as far as she can and then move on to a different spot. I do see the spots she is clearing.

#10

By your own accounts she has treated an hour or less total at this point. You are at a stage where you are hypercritical of the process. You need to let the electrologist work , step back a little. From what I understand of your situation this electrologist is your only choice. You’ve made the decision you are going to proceed, glove/handwashing aside , because the electrologist is your only choice as I understand it. You shouldnt be trying to micromanage. Let her work. I’m sorry to be so harsh.

Seana

#11

Ditto (Seana’s post).

#12

Well, Seana … now that you have "joined ranks’ … be prepared! (The following is NOT directed at the poster … yep, we have to say this nowadays!)

I had a lovely lady years ago (mother of a friend). She had about 100 coarse hairs on her face. However, before the treatment, she would identify the ONLY hairs she wanted removed. We would spend at least 10-minutes discussing "this’ hair … but NOT "that’ one.

At one treatment she became enraged because she was convinced that I’d removed a hair she didn’t want removed "at this time.’ Actually, she got livid "on the table’ because, I suppose, she had a mental image of where each hair was located? She jumped off and "chewed me out.’

I didn’t work on her again and returned all her money. Not worth it! Mental case!

#13

mmm yes. I have a wonderful advantage however, one of the loveliest tempered professionals to both get advice from and benefit from her expertise. Without saying too much I think it will be beneficial to all parties.I’m thrilled to be making use of the skill and be productive and to further my learning under a top professional.

To the OP, you have some limited knowledge of how this process goes, Relax and let your electrologist work.If she has been practising that long, she is doing some things right. The order the hairs are removed in, truly wont make a difference.

Seana

#14

Yes, I will let her work, but I will continue to explain to her I want her to move more up my face and not worry so much about some finer chin hair.

I’m really proud of myself that I started this and hope to continue to see results.

I will try to check out a few more places, but so far she is the only one that has called me back and is the closest in my area.

#15

While this is true, it would not be correct by an electrologist if she removed hairs the client did not bother. Well, we all know that this is sometimes (actually often) necessary to do the job. But anyway: there should be no excuse if an electrologist ignored some fat and ugly hairs because these would not fit into her “working scheme”.

But something else: if You do not see a healing reaction (i.e. swelling) there is not much of a wound and that’s an indication of a potential undertreatment. You must be prepared to have visible healing reactions as soon as thick hairs are being removed.

#16

Well I have stubble on alot of my face, so it’s not like a few bad ones. She has to do my face in sections, I just have certain sections I would like her to do, but she says she is getting to them.

I get red with a drop of swelling, but after a few minutes you can’t see any visible healing. I feel her pulling some hairs.

I am just waiting and seeing. I have only had an hour of treatment.

#17

And this is the point I was trying to get to you. An hour isnt really enough time to tell very much.

I always encourage every electrolysis client to try out as many different electrologists as they can before settling on one. Where possible I tell people to try out at least 5 different ones. Then see which they like better.From what you have related, this isnt possible, but I still urge you to seek out others and try them if possible.

The point I was getting at however is you cant really see the hairs the electrologist is seeing. Hairs that dont look like much taken out of context could look very large coming out of your face.While you are right to be able to say “work on this area” the slight redness and swelling going away after a short time is very normal. Like Michael said you can drive an electrologist crazy trying to assert too much control of the process so early on.

If you have done 10 hours, and are still not happy with how things are progressing then you’ve got a grief, but I just dont think an hour is enough time to be critical of method. Have some trust she is working in your best interest and I think things could work out for you.In the meantime if you are able to try a different electrologist, do so!

Seana