eyebrows ?

Hi all.

I am a guy looking to thin out my eyebrows as I have thick and strays that grow so close down to my eyelids.

The thing that is putting me off to start having the treatment is the pics of people here in this forums and over the net where they suffered permenant scars (pittings) specially in this area.

Is this usuall with electrlysis ? what are the causes and how to prevent the scars ?

What should I look in the electrolysis that I know she or he won’t scar my face for ever !

What is the best modality in this area ?

If I went 3 or 4 times to have treatment will I notice any difference ?

I don’t mind the hair to return as long as they are thinner and lighter. I have thick dark eyebrows. I just plucked few time no more than 5 I think.

Thanks in advance. Hope you all would help me decide.

The two cases I know of on this forum are clearly from gross overtreatment.

Going to an experienced and reputable electrologist will ensure this doesn’t happen - anywhere!

And just so I’m not all talk, here’s some photos:

This one is one I put up on HairTell a long time ago (the after is from 2009):

This is my sister’s progression of a few treatments:

Both were done by our electrologist in London to this stage using Blend. My sister’s regrowth has later been treated by Josefa using thermolysis (picoflash I believe).

It all works, just make sure you find someone you trust!

And just so you can be sure that they still look good, here are our eyebrows from last week!

Really great work I just have a question about this case. it looks like the hairs leading to the nosebridge(i hope you know which hairs i mean) were also treated and the hairs no longer grow as “wild” or long, if you will. also looks like the hairs at that area are lighter now. or am i seeing this incorrectly?

Hi tinklebells,

This was over a period of four sessions… perhaps one every two weeks? I can’t remember her schedule exactly. We were just trying to reach first clearance and I was showing how the work was progressing. So the ‘lighter’ hairs in the last photo are just what were hidden by the coarser ones.

The ‘wild’ and long hairs were removed completely - anything that made the shape look messy.

This is how the area looks now - so almost completely bare of hairs (after much more work with Josefa). There is some very little regrowth left to treat, but those hairs are too light to be picked up by regular photographs. When my sister is home from Uni, I will try to get a clearer photo.

Josefa also removed a lot of tiny hairs on my sister’s forehead which has helped clear up her acne a lot. Which is why the skin is looking so much better. For me, this is what electrolysis is about - not causing things like pitted scars!

Oh I see, so those hairs were there but just overshadowed by the coarse hairs. I thought that maybe the electrolysis treatment could make hair lighter and less coarse but it would just remove the hair permanently anyway right. when i get electrolysis i need a person who is really good at ‘shaping’ eyebrows too.

Hi tinklebells, well I guess it can do that too.

Firstly, if there is light hair under the coarse hair, you can remove the coarse hair and leave the light hair.

Secondly, well actually, with this electrologist (London one), lots of the hair did come back finer, as she always said that most hairs would least at two treatments before they are removed permanently. The one’s that were ‘killed’ first time were the minority.

Josefa’s work does kill everything (anagen and telogen) in one treatment. However, I’m sure that an electrologist like this can ‘rewind’ their work and undertreat some follicles so that the hairs come back weaker rather than not at all.

Thanks stoppit&tidyup for the informative reply. The thing is I don’t know if I trust this electrologist I want to see.

What I wanted to know is the causes of such pittings and scars specially in this area (eyebrows) and how would I know that the electrologist is treating me well and not scarring me before I proceed with more treatments. I mean pittings as I have read can occur after months of being treated by electrolysis.

I don’t want to get rid of every tiny hair in my eyebrows. I just want to thin out. I was looking for a plan and I want to know what I am going to say to the electrologist.

Basically I want the hair that grow really close to my eyelids to be treated and not the mono brow.

To be honest with you, in my opinion, it is far more likely that an electrologist will do a bad job in regards to treating hairs permanently i.e. undertreating a lot.

I’m not an electrologist (so I hope some will chime in) but from what I know, it should pretty obvious to the electrologist doing the work if they are overtreating and they should take steps to remedy this immediately.

Is there any other part of your face you can start off having treated? Since I’m female and needed my sideburns doing, I started off here and after about 6 months I moved on to areas such as the eyebrows.

What you have said sounds perfectly reasonable. My electrologist is also a beauty therapist and does waxing etc so routinely has to shape eyebrows. For me, I pointed out which hairs I wanted removed and she was careful to keep asking me to have a look and let her know if it was okay.

I went for a consultation to this electrologist based where I live yesterday. She said she’s going to perform galvanic on the eyebrows area and blend on the upper cheeks.

Does this sound good ?

I asked her why galvanic as what I have read it’s the least used nowadays among electrologists. She replied that the eyebrows skin is so thin and galvanic is safer and because I wanted to treat like 10-15 individuals hair in each eyebrows.

Any thoughts ?

@ stoppit&tidyup

Yes I want the upper cheeks to be done they are sparse thin hairs .

Another thing that came up in mind regarding pittings after electrolysis. I think this happens because some places in the face or body has dense hair per cm squared. Like if I wanted to treat my beard I will have problems as the the individual hairs are so close to each other.

Am I right ?

Hi nicefeeling,

I cannot really judge because if she was going to perform Blend everywhere, or thermolysis everywhere, that would sound fine to me too. What matters is her skill with her chosen modalities.

It sounds good that she has a plan. I hope this is the real reason and not to get more treatment time of of you. I had a fast (3 second) blend performed with no issues. She could do a longer blend (10-15 seconds)- personally I’m not sure why she wants to use galvanic only. But if she’s saying it’s safer, then probably she’s right. It doesn’t completely remove the possibility of over treatment though.

Pitted scars are over treatment however they happen. This can happen from one hair or it can happen because of many hairs close together being treated when they shouldn’t be.

For example, my London electrologist, if presented with a dense area would do a spread out treatment and then have you come back after a week or two and do another spread out treatment, until the area is cleared. She would not treat a high density area all in one go.
However, for our electrologist’s who have great skill using the advanced Apilus machines and then have the addition of the IBP, they can do this kind of work without compromising the skin.

A good electrologist will know what is appropriate for the area.

Male here who had electrolysis on my eyebrows about 15 years ago. For the same reasons you’re thinking about it. Wanted to thin them out just a little and get rid of the strays. Great experience and worth the money. I’m starting again in 2 weeks for my first electrolyis since then. Looking forward to it

The eyebrows are one of the areas where an electrologist can showcase their artistic skills. You can enhance the beauty of the eyes, and this lasts forever.

Sorry for being away. I have been very busy with work. Still have not started the treatment yet because of the reason I said.

@depilacionelectr
Fantastic result, you have an artistic eye! I wish I could visit you to have treatment but who know maybe in the future if you’d have me.

Can I ask how long did it take ? I mean how many visits? and the time between them?. I need to work this out in my mind to see If I will be able to visit you :slight_smile:

Thanks for your input. Are you having electrolysis in the same area again (eyebrows). Did the hair grow back ? I thought electrolysis is permanent.

You are right and I am looking for the best option I have. I don’t want to rush things and regret it later. Thanks stoppit :).

Where are you guys all being treated? I don’t see any names mentioned. I need to look for another clinic to what I’ve been doing. I’m in central London.

As you know, my eyebrow work was done with Sharon at Parkside.

And my sister’s work in the photos on the first page, was also done by Sharon.

I had my first appointment today and not sure if I was over-treated as the area (upper cheeks) seems very rough now.

Pictures help. Would you like to submit quality pictures for us to see?

The first photo shows the “before”. The second photo was taken immediately after the first session. The time required to do both eyebrows and the space between the eyebrows was 90 minutes.

The advantage of this case is that the eyebrows have never been touched, this allows us to work with a maximum of hairs present, so the regrowth is minimal. Still, it will take a couple of clearing more to remove all hairs in this area. This girl (as far as I can remember, 16 years) still have to develop new hairs in her eyebrows, and if everything progresses as planned these new hairs appear in the lower area, ie, close to the eyelid.