[b]Here we go…
But just note one thing, we DIYer’s never go into the Pro forum, or the laser forum, and use it to poop out self-righteous thought, ideology, You Tube videos that have absolutely nothing to do with DIY electrolysis, or some thoughts on an old codger that never meant a hill of beans anyway. We show respect.
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First of all Jossi, No, I don’t wonder. I pretty much saw all those diagrams back in medical school, here in the United States medical school system, which is probably the best in the world, and as an undergraduate. What I am talking about here is the DIYer’s experience. When you work on someone else, you can’t feel that anchoring yank on the nerves. When you DIY, you can. And not just the nerves, but the whole skin sensation of attachment.
Okay follizap says:
I wouldn’t particularly want to be associated with the Catholic Church myself. They are responsible for way too much misery in the world. Dissing/banning Contraception, encouraging families already in poverty to have loads of kids, countless cases of priests fiddling with kids… not an association I’d be making.
Okay, here we go…
That’s okay if you wouldn’t want to be associated with the Catholic Church. England made Catholicism illegal, mostly because they had kings that grew tired of killing their innocent wives, and just wanted divorces. Also, the kings and queens wanted absolute control of even the spirituality of all those they governed over. Now in English terms, this is okay and acceptable. The English monarchists basically have a history of trying to make themselves into god-like figures.
I understand, you probably find the Presbyterian / Anglican church more to your liking. You know, the church that the queen dictates who will lead, never mind how worthy or true he, or she, is to the faith. The Anglican church, the one that can’t get its act together, is totally fragmented, doesn’t know whether it should listen to its African segment, and can’t decide if women should be priests or not, and still follows what the British Bible Society considers a “complete” bible. Hmmm… Okay, that’s the church you see as legitimate. So lets get on to the Catholic Church follizap…
So you think the Catholic Church is responsible for “misery in the world” huh? Did you know?
-The Catholic Church is the single largest charity organization other than the United Nations itself? And has been around a whole, whole lot longer than the United Nations?
- Did you know while the English sit there and point towards the Catholic Church as “gay hating”, the truth is The Catholic Church has been in Africa taking care of hundreds of thousands of Africans infected with HIV, while the rest of the world pretty much turns a blind eye. And in those same countries where the Anglican Church has basically deserted Africans, that it’s the Catholics that go into the dangerous areas to supply agricultural and health knowledge, and education on neo-natal care?
- Did you know that the Catholic Church goes into areas despite any beliefs on birth control, religion, or government rule. They serve, and with no reservations.
So by misery, you’re probably going to start, like most, yawn, pointing to the Inquisitions. Go ahead.
The Inquisitions were put in place by King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella, not the Church. The Pope denounced the Inquisitions, but like 99.99% you probably do not know that either.
Further, the Inquisitions were seen as a politically necessary means to unify Spain, that was being torn by influx of Muslims and people following Jewish faiths. The country did it to survive, and although mostly ragged-on by outsiders, it pretty much did allow Spain to unify. Now, you may still point to the Inquisitions. So how many people really died in the Inquisitions, and mind you, this has nothing to do with the Church, How many? Well, many were told to go back to Israel or North Africa, or were told to at least be outwardly Christian, but the big numbers of slaughter never happened.
You want big numbers of slaughter? Lets look at what the British did to the Catholics. Killing priests, destroying Catholic Churches, killing and torturing Catholics. Ever heard of Guy Fawkes? Yeah, there’s a reason he stood his ground. The Gunpowder Rebellion. And so why did the British crown feel they had to charge and fine innocent Catholics into poverty anyway? Greed of the Crown?
Misery they caused? Where? Let’s look at what Hitler did to Catholics (slaughtered), let’s look at what Pol Pot did to Catholics in Cambodia (slaughtered 700,000), let’s look at what Mexico did to Catholics (slaughtered priests), Let’s look at what the American colonists did -made Catholicism illegal in 11 of the 13 colonies, why? Because Puritans did not want religious freedom, as is so mistakenly believed.
Hmm… So what side of the playing field is the misery coming from? Yours. Catholics have only fought back when they had no other choice. The Huguenots? Look what they did before the uprising, murdered Catholic priests and Catholics.
The Crusades? They freed Jeruselem. Sure there was mayhem, but when wasn’t there in the Dark Ages. Comparatively, they were pretty tame. But because they carried the cross, they are heald to the highest standards. Flattering really, shows you do expect more from us. But, these were just men. Not Priests, not the Pope.
In that same era lets look at the behavior of the Vandals, the Visigoths, the Franks, etc… Hmm… trading children for dogmeat? Taking slaves? burning villages, killing babies? This went on for hundreds of years, guess who finally stopped it? Guess some of us don’t consider the actions of the central European tribes as causing misery? A whole, whole, whole lot more than the Crusades. Not even comparable. At all.
See, what happens is people act viciously towards innocents, then, because they can’t see or accept that they are a true source of evil, they blame their dead victims. It’s really quite sickening.
Hmm… Contraception… Well, see, what’s wrong with African, Filipino, or Mexican babies?? I don’t know? Now tell me please? Why would a white, Anglo-Saxon, protestant not want more brown skinned Catholics to be born? Why? So having babies is everyone’s personal choice.
Instead of saying, why preach against it, why don’t you ask, why even mention it to anybody else? Why force people to pay for pills that do nothing for their health? Birth control has been cleverly labeled as a “Women’s health issue”, It’s not a “health issue. Those pills cause clotting cancer, strokes. Hmm… what’s so healthy about that? And why should I pay for it? If someone wants to use sex as recreation, let them buy the pills themselves, it’s their pastime activity. I suppose if they wanted to take up bicycling I should be obliged to by them a free bicycle as well. Obama forced that on the American public, it did not go through Congress my friend.
See, In countries where birth control flows freely, Caucasian populations are falling; Germany, Sweden, Britain, America. They have chosen that destiny for themselves, by making something a “sport” instead of a means to bring life into the world. Your choice, but because of your choice, there will be more brown skinned Catholic babies. Sorry, that’s just the way it is! Simply because they have Faith, don’t get mad at them! Some people just want to live naturally, like we were created. It’s great! It’s healthy! We love it! -Oh, I’m sorry, some are full of chemicals, they can’t have kids now, and it seems the best ones too! Sorry, their choice.
Priests fiddling with kids. Well, that happens everywhere my friend, everywhere. It is much more prevalent in Schoolteacher-student associations, babysitting, relatives, Little League, ASYO soccer, etc. than in the Catholic Church, Way more. Read Michael Coren, he addresses this squarely. The anti-Catholic media have a field day with each and every incident. They wave it like a huge flag, and they’ll even bring it back onto the front page for any reason years later, the same incident. See, I look at facts, and facts clearly point out it is actually far more prevalent amongst Protestants and the secular. Sorry, back it up with facts, you’ll see.
It’s really sickening that the Catholic Faith is so misguidedly attacked on a hair removal forum, it really is. A true and Faithful Catholic will not stand idle when this is done. No, we will not only fight back, but usually to the death. We have so for, hmmm, about 2,000 years. It’s no big deal, really isn’t.
I have to formally and publically complain about your behavior.
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I’ve felt like killing my own wife on occasion and I’ve no doubt she would have preferred me under the patio once or twice during our time together. Joking aside though and not condoning anyone killing anyone else. If it wasn’t for the church at the time not allowing for the fact that over time some relationships will break down 
those queens may well have survived execution and gone on to live happy and fulfilling lives. It’s no surprise though that the thinking from the church was just a little bit unrealistic. How could someone who supposedly led a life of celibacy possibly have Any idea about the issues that can exist within a relationship. In some ways you could say it was the catholic churches standpoint that resulted in the beheadings in the first place. A desperate act to counter a desperate situation, ask my wife.