electrolysis & wrinkles

I am 20 hours in for electrolysis on my face. I am only 25 and have never had wrinkles. now out of nowhere i have 2 deep ones on the sides of my mouth and on one side there are three smaller ones they actually look like deep scaring. My skin is not looking good. I don’t know what to do about this. IT actually looks like I am loosing the collegen in my face. Is this possible?

The first question is, “Do you smoke?”

Other than that, too much work in too small an area can be a problem. The higher the settings used, the more likely this becomes.

Most things like this, are temporary, and those that are not going to go away so quickly, can be taken care of at the end of treatment.

Of course, if it is your treatment that is doing this, and not your smoking, then you might do well to check on some other practitioners in your area, in addition to working with the one you have to try to make your treatment experience better than what you say it is now.

I am not a smoker and take very good care of my skin. In the area that is wrinkled there are tons of little dots or pock marks. What can I do to improve the apperance? The machine is a high intensity machine called SIMPLE could thi be the problem? In another post you questioned the name. she said it was in the latest issue of JOE.
I drink lots of water and to the best of my knowledge do all that is possible for after care. I walk around with vaseline on the treated area for two days following treatment. Im not sure what else to do. Could possibly spacing out treatment more help the skins healing process?

Most importantly what can I do about the wrinkles that have occured??? NOT COOL AT 25!!!

Personally, I like Pure Aloe Vera Gel for two to three days better than petroleum products, but you do what you think is best.

You are having what sounds like a reaction to overtreatment. She needs to lower the settings, or more likely space out the work more. You won’t be as bare after each appointment, but you will not have this wrinkling problem either.

If you send me some pictures of what we are talking about, I can better give you personal information on your case. My Email Address is in my Profile where anyone can find it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

This is soooo spookey - I was going to post something about this subject, and then I saw your post.

I had some reactions very similar to what you describe - lots of little pock marks, wrinkles, and the appearance of loosing collogen (and in my case, elasticity as well).

I was very, very worried about my skin. (If you dig out some of my older posts, you may find them.)

The good news is that your skin DOES recover!
Mine did, and I’m 40 years old.

Wait and see what James says, but it sounds to me like you should seek out a new practitioner. You shouldn’t be getting this sort of reaction. I go to some excellent ones, and I no longer suffer any of the effects you describe.

In the mean time, as well as all the advice James gave you, I’d recommend using an anti-aging moisturiser - it worked wonders for me.
If you can stand it, move on to a different area to give the damaged one time to recover. Again, it worked for me.

Also, I swear by high dose vitamin C tablets. Vitamin C fuels the body’s repair systems, so it’ll help your skin to recover quicker.
It’s also very good at boosting your defense systems, so you should be a little better protected against future treatments.
As an aside, I also get less sunburn, less allergies, and fewer colds - vit.C rocks!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I also had a line that occasionally showed up on the side of my mouth and one part of my upper lip looked a little dented (only noticeable to me). At the time, I was getting about an hour of treatment a week and I realized that the area was slightly swollen. Once my hair growth tapered off, the swelling came down. Could this be what you’re experiencing?

As Toni says, your skin is remarkably resilient and will heal from all kinds of things. Especially when you’re only 25!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I’d like to mention my experience:

I’m 43, male, and have had my entire beard removed with electrolysis (about 200 hours, mostly thermolysis, performed by 2 electrolygists operating at the same time, with injected anaesthetic). I started in 1999, and finished about a year ago. I now have some wrinkles on the sides of my mouth, which came quickly and are therefore traceable to the electrolysis rather than just the passage of time. Unfortunately, it wasn’t until I was almost done with my treatment that my practitioners mentioned that blend would be easier on my skin; I still can’t believe that they didn’t initially recommend blend for the areas around the mouth, which are very easy to damage.

In any case, too late now. In '99, when I began, I had researched beard removal and decided on electrolysis rather than laser because I thought that laser wouldn’t be permanent; most of my decision was based on information from tsroadmap.com. Over the past couple of years, I have had laser done on my legs, and I have found it to definately be permanent. While I can’t be certain what the laser results would have been on my face, if I were to do it again, I would certainly opt for laser on my face rather than electrolysis, and use electrolysis only after laser stopped being effective (say, if the hairs got to be too light or too fine in texture). Now, I am considering laser skin resurfacing to hopefully reduce the damage from electrolysis.

Best of luck,


Also, I swear by high dose vitamin C tablets. Vitamin C fuels the body’s repair systems, so it’ll help your skin to recover quicker.

It’s also very good at boosting your defense systems, so you should be a little better protected against future treatments.

As an aside, I also get less sunburn, less allergies, and fewer colds - vit.C rocks!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

At what dose do you get these benefits from vitamin C? Is it a particular form of vitamin C, such as Ester-C?

If the wrinkles don’t go away on their own you can always get laser (or IPL) treatments to build up more collagen.


i dunno what the original poster does, i still have yet to see the benefits it may be working but i dunno…but i take about 500mg or 1000mg a day…i used to take the pill form 1000mg a day but now m taking those chewable ones lol

Not to be a party pooper, but perhaps you’re wrinkles coincided with your aging process. Or the level of intensity pursued by your electrologists.

The hair that was reduced by my laser experiences grew back, so it might be a bit premature to declare all laser experiences permanent.


I don’t think that electrolysis contributes to wrinkles.
Sometimes it is something we all get as part of the aging process such as laugh lines or worry lines.

Sometimes smoking or too much sun can cause wrinkles. Most people have lines somewhere in their face, especially as they get older.


In order to have wrinkles from electrolysis, one would have to have very bad work that included pitting and much too much treatment in small areas.

Of course, if you remove all the hair on the skin, it is much easier to SEE the ravages of all the sun worshiping, smoking, environmental pollution, poor diet and non-regenerative sleep have visited upon your person.

One of the reasons Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation loves to do sample treatments on legs is because even waxing can lead to permanent removal on legs because it is easy to build up enough scar tissue in the shallow leg follicles, and the legs loose circulation as a person ages. Many more mature people loose their leg hair without doing anything at all!

LASER would not have given you permanent hair removal on your face. There is no way you could have completely bared your skin to the point of no remaining terminal hairs by doing LASER alone.

“At what dose do you get these benefits from vitamin C? Is it a particular form of vitamin C, such as Ester-C?”

I take 500mg Vit C. It’s an 8 hour slow release, tablet form - I don’t know if it’s any particular type.

When I had a lot of pitting, loss of plumpness and elasticity, it took a long time to clear up. (Years rather than months).

But since I’ve been taking Vit C I have no lasting skin trauma following electrolysis.

James, I’m glad you cleared things up because this thread was starting to scare me! I’ve been getting treatments for almost 2 years, and I’m the same age as the originator of this thread, and I’ve seen no wrinkles. So, hopefully I have nothing to worry about.

Kevs, you are very welcome.

As for the vitamin C question, I double checked with a well respected nutritionist, and he confirms that 500mg a day of C is fine, as long as you are getting the other vitamins and minerals, and fatty acids that allow the body to properly utilize the C.

This, of course, assumes one is not doing things like smoking, and heavy caffeine intake.

Does this mean I’ll have to give up my precious cigarettes starting in January?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Do I really need to tell you that you should not smoke?
Do I you really need me to tell you that your health and skin will improve when you cease to smoke?

On the subject of vitamin C, here is a statistic for you; for every cigarette you smoke, you need to ADD the vitamin C of 7 oranges per day. How many oranges do you need to eat per day now? Does it look like one of those total commercials?

It is said elsewhere on this forum, but if you smoke and get electrolysis, it will hurt MORE than if you were a non-smoker.

You also need to drink an additional 8 ounces of water for each cigarette you smoke – and most Americans don’t drink the minimum amount of water to start with.

In other news, smoking dulls your ability to taste food, and smell the world around you.

I have heard women say that they smoke to control their weight (you gotta be kidding me) and yet they don’t take into account that the weight difference is only 5 to 10 pounds, and that any weight gain after smoking cessation would go away just by living healthy. I guess they believe that guys prefer skinny girls with cancer, over healthy girls with some curves.

While I am ranting, if 20 pounds would put you into the morbidly obese category, smoking still won’t put you in a healthy weight class.