Electrolysis Questions!

Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
#1

Hello!

I got a hair transplant a year ago out of wanting a lower hairline, and only half of it grew in. I just want to remove it all and resume life to the way it was before I got my transplant. Total amount of hairs I want removed is about 700 in the frontal hairline region. Hairs are medium thickness, dark blonde, and roots are 3-5mm deep. Also, I am a male in my 20’s.

I have talked with a few different electrologists regarding what I should do. I want permanant removal so electrolysis is the only option, but what type of electrolysis?

Dectro (Apilus) recommended MicroFlash on an Apilus system, or if Flash Thermolysis if I cannot find a local electrologist using Apilus. She recommended this because she said it is quick, and has little pain, and will be effective for the hairline. She also discouraged using Multi-Needle Galvanic as it is painful, and outtdated.

A local electrologist recommended Galvanic, she said even though it is the oldest technique, it is still the most effective. She said that thermolysis is not as effective and a thermolysis machine is the cheapest machine an electrologist can buy.

I would rather have 4 long painful sessions than 8 short painless sessions, as I want to get rid of these hairs asap.

b [/b]What technique do you recommend?

b [/b]Based on your advice and my situation, how many hours (sessions) and months do you think would be required to fully kill the hair?

b [/b]Based on your advised technique, what % of hair do you think could be completley killed in a session? I have heard some people say hair grows back thinner and thinner until you cannot see it, and I have heard others say some hair can be killed automatically.

b [/b]What machines do you recommend, Gentronics, Apilus, etc, does it really make a difference?

I want to make the best decision I possibly can. Thank you very much!

P.S. All the electrologists I am considering have been performing electrolysis for 20+ years, and each holds a respected credential. Although some do operate out of the house, is this okay?

#2

First of all, Glavanic is not outdated; it is just another option. New machines are still being manufactured. Since I do all modalities and techniques of needle electrolysis, I know that they all work however one modality and technique might be more suited to a particular situation.

There are ways to work with each modality that will be more comfortable or more uncomfortable so for one to say that galvanic is too painful, to me, indicates a probability of the practitioner’s lack of working knowledge with galvanic.

However, all said, thermolysis is my first choice as its speed to clear an area and its ease of operation makes it most appealing. Nevertheless, it is always the skill of the practitioner that is far more powerful than the modality choice.

I have worked on removing transplanted hairs and have found it to be a simple enough procedure. What type of hair replacement procedure did you have?

My advice is for you to go in for the free electrology consultations and interview the practioners.

Keep us posted.

#3

However, all said, thermolysis is my first choice as its speed to clear an area and its ease of operation makes it most appealing.

Short term thermolysis is faster, but what about long term? I’ve heard Galvanic has a better chance at killing the hair first time, any truth to this?

I am not worried about the pain, I would be willing to go through pain to get these killed within months rather than a year if possible. So immediate kill rate is more important to me than comfort.

I have worked on removing transplanted hairs and have found it to be a simple enough procedure. What type of hair replacement procedure did you have?

I had FUE, so each hair was transplanted individually into slits made at the top of my forehead. 1-2 hairs per graft, 1300 grafts total, only about 700-800 were accepted and grew.

In your experiences, is hair transplant removal quicker than average body/facial hair removal?

#4

Hi:

It is most unusual to have spent all that money on a hair transplant and now want to remove them. Probably unless you are taking something like propecia, they may fall out on their own eventually anyways.

I have had a hair transplant with 3000 FU's, (Follicular Units) and it has helped a lot, but I used to take propecia. I don't have to worry about that any more since I have no testosterone production.

I have had a lot of facial electrolysis done with thermolysis, and I have been at it for over 2 years now.
It probably would not take as long for scalp hair however, in such a number as you mentioned.

I wonder if James has ever removed scalp hair?
I haven’t heard of such a thing before.

Alicia

#5

Hi:

It is most unusual to have spent all that money on a hair transplant and now want to remove them. Probably unless you are taking something like propecia, they may fall out on their own eventually anyways.

It is an unusual situation, but the survival rate of my transplant was terrible, and it looks very odd having one side with hair, and the other side without. (Right side grew well, left hardly grew) I either get it removed and accept my natural hairline (which isn’t bad) or I go in for a 2nd hair transplant which takes up to one year for growth, really I just want to get this over with and move on with my life. I haven’t felt like myself with it, and I miss life. I choose removal <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

#6

Since you might not be able to find a multiple needle practitioner, if that is where you are heading, just find someone who is highly skilled in whatever modality choice they have their expertise in.

You ask, “Short term thermolysis is faster, but what about long term? I’ve heard Galvanic has a better chance at killing the hair first time, any truth to this?”

Yes, muliple needle galvanic is more effective because no hair or follicle is too much of a challenge however, since most hair is simple enough to treat with thermolysis, it is impractical to use galvanic as the first option as it is time consuming.

You ask, “In your experiences, is hair transplant removal quicker than average body/facial hair removal?”

Hair transplant clients finish quickly.

What does the skin look like where you had your transplant? Is the skin smoothe?

You allowing this hair situation to hold you back from living life fully? Enough bla bla and get working on removing the hair.

Good luck and keep us posted as to your experiences.

#7

What does the skin look like where you had your transplant?Is the skin smoothe?

The skin is smooth, I can’t see any scarring myself - I beleive I am very lucky in that aspect of the situation.

You allowing this hair situation to hold you back from living life fully? Enough bla bla and get working on removing the hair.

Hehe, I know, I already feel much better by deciding to remove it though, I shouldn’t had let my hair control my life, only reason I don’t regret the transplant is because I feel I have grown from it, and learned to accept my natural faults.

Good luck and keep us posted as to your experiences.

Thanks, I will!

Also, Is there such thing as single needle galvanic, and how does it compare to multi-needle?

#8

Yes, James has removed scalp hair, both natural and from transplants.

If the transplants were so bad that the skin was dimpled or the follicles twisted, I used blend.

The work goes quickly. I have never had any complaints from any of my transplant removal clients.

One of my transplant removal clients even successfully sued to get a refund of the cost of the plugs, and my removal fees. (it really was that bad <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />)

#9

Yes, James has removed scalp hair, both natural and from transplants.

If the transplants were so bad that the skin was dimpled or the follicles twisted, I used blend.

The work goes quickly. I have never had any complaints from any of my transplant removal clients.

One of my transplant removal clients even successfully sued to get a refund of the cost of the plugs, and my removal fees. (it really was that bad <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />)

Luckily my only issue was regrowth, since only half were accepted and actually grew that makes it look odd. As far as scarring and dimples I feel I have been very lucky, and cannot see any really. What do you use on scalp hair if there is no scarring or dimples?

Also, what technique has the smallest risk of scarring, pitting?

When you say quickly, how quickly? Quick sessions, or overall quickness? How many months/sessions do you think I may need to fully remove/kill my 700-800 hairs?

Thanks James!

#10

How long it takes depends on who you see, and what speed they can get to on your skin.

The good news is that most of the time the hairs are going to be in growth phase when you treat them, so they will only need one treatment per hair.

#11

…and what speed they can get to on your skin.

What do you mean by speed? My skin is fair-light…not too light, but hardly any tan. Please advise, thnx!!

#12

The color of your skin is not a contraindication to electrolysis.

Just start treatment. Make sure you don’t feel tweezed.
Make sure you get a new sterile disposable needle with every treatment.

There are reasonable total treatment time ranges but get that information from the electrologists who will provide you with the free consultations. They will have the advantage of seeing you and asking you questions based on what they see.

Good luck.

#13

The color of your skin is not a contraindication to electrolysis.

Translation, electrolysis works for everyone regardless of hair color.

#14

Thanks, I do have another question.

Are there any advantages or disadvantages to having Galvanic in the hairline region rather than say, Blend?

Thanks!

#15

Hi:

Generally when they do a transplant they make it slightly asymetrical since a natural hairline is not symetrical. But from what you are saying there is an extreme
difference. I was wondering if someone else did the implanting on one side as opposed to the other, and that the one technician did not do the job very well?

Did you take any propecia, or did they recommend that you take that after the transplant?

They sometimes also recommend the use of Rogaine on fresh transplants for a few months till they get started.

It can take up to 18 months for full growth of implanted hair.

I am sorry it did not work well for you.
Mine has worked pretty well, even though it took a while
till it looked really good. There was some shock loss at first with mine, especially in the donor area.

Alicia

#16

Hi:

Generally when they do a transplant they make it slightly asymetrical since a natural hairline is not symetrical. But from what you are saying there is an extreme
difference. I was wondering if someone else did the implanting on one side as opposed to the other, and that the one technician did not do the job very well?

Did you take any propecia, or did they recommend that you take that after the transplant?

They sometimes also recommend the use of Rogaine on fresh transplants for a few months till they get started.

It can take up to 18 months for full growth of implanted hair.

I am sorry it did not work well for you.
Mine has worked pretty well, even though it took a while
till it looked really good. There was some shock loss at first with mine, especially in the donor area.

Alicia

Yes the difference is extreme.

No same surgeon, technician each time. It was the side done on the first day that didn’t take.

No propecia or rogaine, I never lost any hair, I’ve just always had a large forhead. It was done out of vanity and insecurity but I have learned that I would much rather have what God gave me rather than some un-natural looking hairline a surgeon gave me.

Even if it did grow in fine it would require a 2nd transplant to get the full density, now I honestly feel that I would just like to get on with things, and put this past me rather than wait a year for another transplant that may not grow in either.

#17

If you are choosing between blend or galvanic, go with the blend. It will be far easier to find a practitioner, the treatments will most likely feel more comfortable and you’ll get more accomplised in the appointment time.

In my office, multiple needle galvanic is costly as clients have to purchase a set of presterilized disposable needles for each session. If you don’t do this, you can’t be sure you are getting a new set of disposable, presterilized needles each time.

Haven’t you gone for any consultations yet? Any phone consultations yet? What are you waiting for?