Electrolysis Malpractice on the groin area

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#1

Hello,

Well, an electrolysis I had been going to for about 8 months well, during my last session about 2 weeks ago, I had requested some hair to be removed from the groin area. Well, the electrolysis decided to be a bit unprofessional about it and more personal because the electrolysis thought I was asleep. I called the electrolysis out on this and the electrolysis did not charge me for this session.

I am extremely upset about this and want to get this person reported. How should I go about this? Is there a particular entity to report this too? Should I seek legal advice? BTW, the electrolysis is a Member of the American Electrology Association, a Board Certified Professional Electrologist, and a Member of the Texas Association of Professional Electrologists. All help in this matter is greatly appreciated! Thank you!

#2

I’m assuming you are a female and the electrologist was male?

I would report the situation to the associations, but remember this usually becomes a “he said, she said” thing. You are going to have to be specific should you file suit … I mean exactly and graphically specific.

The "the electrolysis decided to be a bit unprofessional about it and more personal … " is not going anywhere.

#3

I think it was inappropriate that you have come here with this information, auser. If you are bothered by this Electrolo-GIST, go hire an attorney. We didn’t need to hear such identifying specifics. Innocent until proven guilty anybody? This is disgusting.

#4

Malpractice? What your very vague explanation points to is some sexual misconduct or at least that’s what I got from it. Such is serious allegation that is not appropriate or online forum consult. The best advice you will get anywhere on the internet is to contact law enforcement and consult an attorney for advice.

#5

I agree with you Dee. This thread should be removed immediately. I do not know how many male electrologists are in the state of Texas who are subscribed to the AEA. But if I were one of them, this was not so. This is a very serious accusation and quite unlikely. If the “alleged” victim of abuse was telling the truth, she would not have given so many details, she would simply have to ask the question without pointing to nowhere. To me, this sounds like revenge for some reason that only God knows. There is a clear desire to harm, and this person does not realize who else is going to lose is the consumer himself, because no male electrologist will want to work on a woman if she is not accompanied by an impartial witness, and this means pay at least double the usual rate.

#6

I was going to ask if the client was planning to go back for more treatments. But then, that would be sort of a harebrained question? So, I decided not to ask … ooops! Did I do thaaaat?

All seriousness aside … actually, there are many ways to make treating “delicate” areas entirely non-threatening for both male and female clients. Maybe this is a nice place to open such a discussion. I have never seen this awkward subject discussed in writing or in lecture.

I have developed a whole “bag of tricks” to make this feel “right.” I’ll bet my fellow zaparinos have some ideas too. I’ll start this off with:

“Trick” #1 … “Watch where you watch!”

Never watch the client when they are disrobing. Actually, it’s best to leave the room and give them plenty of clean fresh towels with which to drape themselves (you will want to show them how to do it first). Have then pop-up on the table and then let you know when it’s “safe” to come back in the treatment room. (They are comfortable and fully draped.)

Likewise, when he or she gets off the table you may help … but look at them in the face … don’t look at their “whatever” or anything below the face. Then, leave the room quickly and allow them to put on their clothing. Never stay in the room and never watch them put on their clothing. I have more to come, if you wish. (You know I would do this with my BIG FAT mouth!)

#7

I am actually a male and the electrologist was a male too. But I will be seeking legal advice on this soon. Thank you all!!!

#8

Michael’s advice is spot on.

I cannot leave the room (MY space is the opposite corner of the room as the door) but while the client is disrobing, I am turned away from them, washing hands, setting up the cart, etc. I have a “modesty” towel for them to use, and for all groin areas I use three of these towels arranged in such a way that a triangle of skin is exposed. “Parts” are covered unless they are being worked on. When the treatment is over I am turned away cleaning up the work area.

Definitely steer conversations to wholesome topics!

Make sure music isn’t “exotic.”

I look forward to what Michael has to add!

#9

Hi Barbara, Nice to see you posting …

I will post a few more ideas, but I was thinking about a very awkward and funny incident that happened some years ago. Maybe this might even “relate” to the original poster?

I was working on a guy’s “schnitzel” (that’s the correct medical term, by the way: “schnitzel”). As all of us know, we are fully concentrating on the follicles and not thinking about much else. The guy reached down and grabbed my “crotch!” I got so surprised that my head shot up and slammed right into my HEAVY dental light: BAM! I hit so hard the bulb got dislodged.

I got up and laughed … I said: “Damn you scared the hell out of me.”

I just went about putting in a new bulb, never said ANYTHING about the incident and just went back to work. The guy got the message that the “grab” was not reciprocated and therefore not appropriate. I just laughed about it and made it seem like he was just trying to “pull a joke on me.” Nothing even happened again.

I’m always surprised with such RARE situations because I have all the sex appeal of a librarian. I have had a couple “things” with women, but usually they are verbal and, so far, I’ve never had a woman grab my “package.”

I will offer more serious comments in a bit … I just thought this was funny and might give you all a laugh. Maybe that’s what the original poster should do too: just forget about it? I did.

#10

Typo: Should be “nothing EVER happend again.” (Freudian slip?)

#11

I use a tissue drape and cut a small opening for the treatment area, this provides for only a small exposed area and also gives a barrier for the arms while working so there is no skin to skin contact. I have been told that it is similar to what doctors do and is called a surgical field.

#12

Yeah, these are usually called “fenestrated drapes.” I used to “borrow” them from Dr. Perkins to use on breasts and bikini areas (heisted?). Basically, a drape with a hole in it. You can check these on the internet and see the many different sizes. I “heisted” the sterile ones, but that’s not necessary at all.

Non-sterile fenestrated drapes are made and would be perfect for electrolysis use. I wonder if Prestige or Texas sells these? I don’t think they do, but it might be a nice idea?

Check it: fenestrated drapes.

#13

I know that Texas had them listed in their catalog, but I have never used them and never purchased any, so I don’t know if they still carry them. My guess is that they still have them available.

#14

Fenestrated drapes from alibaba.com :

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/634156753/disposable_fenestrated_drapes.html

They are easy to make out of solid white sheets if one knows how to use a sewing machine.

#15

I wondered what fenestrated meant, I know now it is Latin for window.

I buy the regular tissue drapes and make my own opening. I get them from a medical supply company.

#16

Yep, “fenestrated” window drape. Why not just call it a “window drape?”

Why do we say “veterinarian” and not “animal doctor?” Why “ophthalmologist” and not “eye doctor?” It’s really crazy … after all these years: 947 years to be exact!

Germans don’t do that; I mean “Greek or Latin.” To a German, an “animal doctor” is called an “animal doctor,” simple and direct. But we English-speakers have to “go” Latin or Greek to “make it sound better.” Why is this?

If you’re English, the date 1066 is hammered into your head like 1492 is to an American student. 1066 was the Norman (French) invasion of Britain (well, the first of many back and forth invasions). Good old “William the Conqueror” (or “William the Bastard” if you prefer). It’s all his fault!

Along with his hegemony over Britain came the suppression of resident Brits who spoke, well, Anglo-Saxon. To differentiate the classes and support his rule, Latin/Greek (French base) was used and the native language suppressed. Cronyism.

Still, even today, we are greatly insulted when we hear Anglo-Saxon terms … but feel relieved and “more professional” when the Latin terms are used. Yeah, all those juicy “4-letter words” that upset us are the original “English” terms. I could write the “Latin” version of a few terms, and Hairtell would be fine with it … if I used the Anglo-Saxon term, I would be scolded or thrown out!

Guess what the kids at Harrow and Eton have to learn … yeah, LATIN!

All of this silliness is still with us in the “professions.” In Holland our profession is called “electrical hair removal;” I believe in Germany too. Years ago, a person wanted us to change our name to “Trichodemologist,” which is Latin (or Greek? Yeah probably Greek) for a person that “destroys hairs.” Damn, I already have too much trouble explaining what an ELECTROLOGIST” does. I’d be happy with “electrical hair removal.”

It’s all “Bill’s” fault! I mean “fenestrated” … and not WINDOW! “Bloody ‘French’!”

#17

I still like my “towels triangle,” Pick one of these if you want some non-English words for it: Handtucher-Dreieck or triangolo di asciugamani or triangle de serviettes. (Bing translator didn’t have Latin, dang it.)

The reason I this works so well is that the towels can be laid across the curves of the body and can be used to pull certain parts of the body out of the way. The actual opening can be very small or very large.

#18

I’m all about making my own, thanks Dee.