I’m really posting for peoples opinions on Dr. Babapour and others in the LA area. I’m currently from England, however I do have family over in this neck of the woods, so to speak.
I’m desperate for my ful legs and forearms to be reduced uniformly with laser, Iv’e tried literally place in London and my chest now looks like a cross with a snow lepord.
I read that LAgirl went to Dr. Babapour, would you mind me asking what he’s like in missing spots (this I think was a contributory factor towards the patchiness, despite being touched up) as well as how even the overall outcome is?
Have you read the London thread on here? There is information on several clinics there. You need a few more treatments on your chest if the area is patchy. Good overlapped treatments. Find that thread and get started if you can.
Dr Babapour is good and he makes sure every spot is covered as much as possible. However, he’s not cheap for larger areas. Also, he’s not aggressive with settings. If you’re going to do treatments in LA and you need GentleLASE, then check out dr Hamilton who’s been getting good reviews here. If your skin is darker though, you’ll need a Yag.
Where did you go in London? What type of laser was used? How many treatments did you have? Spaced how far apart?
Thank you for the fast response lagirl. Iv’e tried every place in London with the Candella GentleLASE and I’m a cross between skin type I and II. Price doesn’t really bother me, especially with the current exchange rate (although I know this can change quite drastically). Without meaning to sound withdrawn or rude I’d rather not mention the name simply as I’m still having treatment on other areas that I want fully cleared and am not to bothered as to whether the hair comes out uniformly or not (but I will happily do so after).
This sounds silly, but I’ve last a lot of faith due to the general attitudes in England towards hair removal, they don’t seem to want to specialise, for example reducing the hair uniformly, treating male facial hair with a good outcome (two of my close friends beards look very strange now after laser hair removal) and the same applies to electrolysis but of course in different areas such as time scales and so forth.
To specifiy more, Iv’e only had one treatment with the GentleLASE on my chest, however the hair there is/was very thick and black and my skin relativley pale so laser has a very big effect. At the moment, certain areas are darker and others are barely noticeable with the odd couple of coarse hairs mixed in and the regrowth rates differ on different patches on my chest (for example, I would shave my entire chest and within 4 days, 5 or so patches would grow to about 5mm in around a week, the remainder would only grow about 1-2mm in the same time period). I don’t know whether this is a permanent side effect of the treatment, but the treatment was administered on the 3rd of November and this still occurs. I was treated on 16 joules with and 18mm spot size and then had several touch up’s on missed areas and areas that the practitioner considered to have not reacted, with an increase from 16 - 18 joules on the final touch up.
When you said good overlapping may make a difference, would you say out of experience or through observing other posters on this board board and so on, that the hair would begin to come out uniformly, despite the way it is at the moment? (Of course I understand that this is a bit of a stab in the dark situation)
I will certainly look up Doctor Hamilton, Iv’e been trying to find a practitioner who specialises or has a lot of experience with ‘lasering’ male facial hair. Simply because, from what I understand, it takes a great deal of skill to make sure that all areas recieve the same amount of energy from each pulse. Thus meaning that they would possibly be able to offer a similar outcome to another area.
Many thanks and thank you for your time, you’ve been a great help.
Benji here can probably help you with London clinics. He tried several and found one with GentleLASE that overlaps well I believe (thought it’s most expensive).
It sounds like you have had somewhat “too many touchups” which in turn made the hair on your chest grow in several cycles. The proper way to do touchups is 3 weeks after the treatment, only on the areas that were missed (which you can tell at that time because it should be the only hair that hasn’t shed). Having “several” touchups over a course of several months would screw up the synchronization.
What you basically need to do now is to get your hair synchronized again. In general, this can take about 3 treatments due to hair cycles. I would find a reputable clinic that overlaps well and have a good treatment with at least 10% overlapping. The settings above are good. Then, 3 weeks later get a touchup on anything that didn’t shed and is growing as usual. Then leave it alone for another 8-9 weeks before having another treatment. Repeat this 3 times and you should be on your way. You shouldn’t have that much hair left at that point either.
In terms of your beard, what is the current situation? Is the hair very dense and coarse and leaves a shadow after shaving, and you want to be able to shave easier? Or do you want almost complete removal? The latter is not really realistic. The only thing I would advise for this area, and only with someone very experienced on this area in particular, is to have a couple overlapped treatments to get an even reduction. It will make it easier to shave and will get rid of the shadow. I would leave it at that. However, since the hair is so dense, there are really no guarantees of no patchiness on this area. You really need to be ok with this. I would also potentially try a Yag laser for this since it works well on coarse hair. That way, you’ll be able to get rid of the most coarse hair first. And it doesn’t cause as much irritation on this dense area. Someone here has had good results with Judy Adams in Florida on this area because she overlaps well and has a lot of experience on this area. Some clinics won’t even treat this area, like Dr Babapour for example, because they don’t want the possibility of patchiness for their clients.
Hopetobehappy is planning on adding treatments on his face with Dr Hamilton (a nurse actually performs the treatments I believe). You can read his story on the cosmetic enhancements forum.
Sorry for the late reply, Iv’e been a bit tied up for the last couple of days. In terms of my beard I’d simply want a uniform reduction, as the same with my chest, forearms and full legs, however I know that it is very difficult to get a uniform reduction on facial hair. My facial hair itself is black and transparent (only two colours), although the majority is black (it’s quite even in terms of way it’s despensed).
Thinking about resynchronising the hair, would that be possible to do with waxing as well? I know that waxing would not have an effect on the coarseness and so forth, but in terms of getting the cycles synchronised would you say that I would have a chance? The primary reason being I don’t want to loose all the hair on my chest, just have a light dusting if you know what I mean.
This is also why I would need my arms and legs treated, otherwise they would have a strange contrast together, thick arm and leg hair and thin chest hair.
I do know of one dermatologist who’s a extremeley well qualified and specialises in lasers, however he uses the Cynosure Cynergy with the maximum spot size of 12.5mm. Despite this he does taylor treatments to the patient, rather than a time schedule. He also is unbelievably expensive for large areas.
Yes, you can potentially achieve it with waxing. However, it depends on what hair has been already killed. Since waxing won’t kill the hair, it may do the trick, but not necessarily all the way. It may be worth trying if it’s cheap enough.