Just wondering - I’m getting my back done, up to the 4th treatment. The hair always falls out after each treatment but seems to grow back almost the same thickness etc after 10 weeks, I don’t really notice a huge difference. Does falling out hair mean it is working and that it will just take more treatments before all growth cycles are done, or am I wasting my time? (she told me it should take at least ten treatments)
I can’t tell you the machine type, but will write it down after next time.
Hair falling out is a good indication it’s working but it doesn’t mean that it is. If it doesn’t fall out then it’s definitely not working. If it falls out, then there’s a good chance it might. The problem is that even on low or weak settings the hair will still fall out, but if the settings aren’t high enough to kill the hair, then it only is disabling it in which case it’s regrowing.
We would need to know your skin type and type of hair, how dark/coarse it is etc. Please try to find out the machine type and the settings being used on you. Once we know all that we can definitely tell you if it should work. If you’re an ideal candidate (light skin, dark coarse hair) treated with proper settings, then after 4 treatments you should notice a difference. You won’t be hair free, but all the thickest, darkest, coarsest hair should be gone after 4 I find.
The settings can be high enough to make the hair fall out, but not high enough to heat up the hair enough to disable it permanently. That’s why treating at highest settings your skin can handle is important.
Ok. The first time I went it hurt - Then they changed machines, they told me it is a better machine but it won’t hurt as much as the other. So it doesn’t hurt hardly at all but the hair is falling out after about two weeks. I phoned them and asked and this is what they said the machine was =
Luminex Or-light
This is in Australia. If this isn’t a good machine, can someone tell me what is - I’m in Perth WA.
Also, I have light skin, back area in particular. And the hair isn’t exactly thick but it is dark.
No this doesn’t sound like a good machine. I’ve never heard of it before but googling it finally found http://www.luminex.com.au/orlight/or-light which looks like it’s an IPL which isn’t even a true laser…
We need to know your skin type and hair type to determine the best later for you. In general the best laser is going to be an alexandrite such as the GentleLASE or Apogee Elite / MPX, but these are only safe on very light skin with dark coarse hair.
Sounds like this is an IPL.
Laser or IPL don’t work on hair that is not coarse. It doesn’t matter whether you have a lot of hair. If it’s not coarse hair, it won’t work.
I had IPL done on my hands which had fine hair. It worked pretty good. I’m happier with my IPL results than my current laser results.
Rapists! so I’ve wasted my time and money on this.
Moving on. My skin is pale, back expecially hasn’t seen sun for years because I anticipated doing laser hair removal. Its white.
The hair is dark. I am male. I’m not sure exactly what you mean by course. But in comparison to the picture below, I would say the hairs are finer than that and not so dense, but coarse?
Should I go down the electrolysis route instead?
So annoying!!!
The coarseness of the hair refers to how thick the individual hairs are. Density refers to how much hair is in a given spot.
^This is my understanding.
Based on the photo, your hair is not super coarse, but it is relatively coarse. You should get some good reduction, just not in the 90% range (maybe 60-70% after 6-8 good treatments). It’s also not very dark in terms of color, but it should have enough pigment for laser to target it well. Definitely try to go with an alex laser at good settings for best results.
Coarse hair is the type of hair that leaves some stubble and/or shadow when shaved.
gamer_chic, what part of hands? How long has it been since your last treatment? If the hair was truly fine, it’ll all be back within 6-12 months.
Both of my hands were treated. That includes fingers. Finger hairs were a lil more thick. It’s been over a year since being treated. At least a year and a half. Some hair has grown back but its so fine and thin I really don’t have to do anything. I say at least a 70-80% reduction.
Does anyone know of a good electolysis clinic in Perth Australia. Second question, I phoned one and asked how many hairs she can do in an hour (roughly speaking) she said she has done 1000 before - does this sound right?
Yes, it is possible to do 1,000 insertions per hour. Personally, I have done 1,200, but that is not the norm for me. It all depends on the area and the hair structure, mainly. My normal hourly insertion rate is anywhere from 500-900. These levels are only obtained using Flash, Microflash of PicoFlash thermolysis modes. Auto sensor mode (no foot switch) is the next part of the equation to get these high numbers. If one has good vision aid, then one can see better and move faster. There is ONE electrologist, Fino Gior, that I have heard of that can work this fast with a foot switch, reaching levels of 1,200 insertions per hour. This is super human stuff, so don’t expect this from your average/good electrologist.
Saying that she has done 1,000 insertions per hour before can certainly be true, but the key word is “before”. If she has done that amount, then I am assuming that she is still pretty efficient with her normal average insertion rate per hour. There is no way I can carefully and safely do 1,000 insertions per hour on hair structures that are banana-shaped and are very coarse. You want speed and efficiency, but most of all you want to kill hair without damaging the skin, and that probably requires slowing the train down.
Give her a try. Observe and evaluate your healing. Perth? Do a search here on hairtell. There may be past posters that suggested a place or two. Hopefully, someone can come forward and recommend someone for you.
Dear Dee,
It is not that difficult, at least with the foot switch of the Apilus machines. My trick is wearing gym shoes and operating the switch with the heel, which allows You to leave the foot lightly and comfortably on the switch.
Anyway, using autoinsert is less exhausting. I actually can reach peak levels of 18-20 hairs per minute both with autoinsert and with foot switch (on average i am in the 500+ league)
Best wishes
Beate