Different techniques and styles in Electrology.

I observe the same thing, Barbara, so I grab all hairs in an area, so down the road, the client will not have to wonder if the small hairs will become bad boys someday. Some of those innocent looking hairs have large bulbs even though the hair is not so noticeable. I treat every follicle with a hair emerging from it on a man’s back. On a woman’s face, I don’t do this unless it is the upper lip. I have had great success with this strategy.

Yes Barbara, the main advantage of this strategy is that the impact on the follicles that remain intact (surrounding the follicles affected), are more vulnerable and therefore the treatment on they will be easier in later sessions. I wonder why, maybe because of the heat? Or to the inflammatory phase? Does the granular tissue reconstruction?. Epithelialization phase can not be, because when this phase occurs the stage “easier” has disappeared.

Dee has described the main disadvantage of the strategy, the appearance of failure from the view of the client.

One suggestion to name it? “It is better re-clear than over-clear”. Probably the translation does not make much sense. :frowning:

I will have to watch my old Schuster videos again. I’m not one to believe that surrounding follicles get “treated” by treating the newly emerging hair. I simply believe that treating the newly emerging hair allows it to be treated when IT is the most vulnerable. …and that for a new electrologist takes a certain amount of time for them to even notice these hairs - and that some never notice them because they are not paying attention.

Please note that I am not talking about true vellus hairs. I am talking about hairs that appear to be vellus, but once you remove them they have a large diameter root, significant root sheath, and bulb.

Barbara, in areas with high density of hairs as the face, the groups of follicles share collagen. So the treatment of one, must necessarily have an impact on the other two of this group. Perhaps, not enough as to achieve elimination, but yes to be temporarily affected. This would make them more vulnerable for a short season, and need less intensity than if we wait a few months.

Hi Barbara, I uploaded a video using the technique of triple insertion. This is what I deduced from the explanation by Vickie about “Gior technique”. I have called this technique “inverted pyramid”. What do you think? Do you like the name?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcMa3v8MimI&feature=channel

I forgot to say that this work has been done with the Synchro in Apilus Platinum and a 005 Laurier.

An example of the P.E.R.T technique.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCQoLgjFa8E&feature=youtu.be

From re-reading Vickie’s post, I am understanding that the Gior technique is inserting multiple times, but at different depths. The “inverted pyramid” that you have posted is the technique I was trained with. Basically, we are inserting on different sides of the hair shaft. For these large diameter hairs, this allows the current to reach those germinating cells (are we calling them stem cells now?) that might have missed being treated because the hair shaft insulated them from the current.

Of course, these techniques are very helpful, but those of with the thermolysis mode called Synchro can do the same thing with one insertion, as the the current comes off the tip of the probe contiuously as we move the probe in the follicle creating havoc and destruction.

I agree with you Dee. Multiple insertions are not necessary if you are using a powerful mode as Synchro or any mode of Flash on the Platinum. If you add a probe that seems made especially for follicles deep and difficult as Laurier, the chances of error are minimal.

These videos were recorded solely for the purpose of showing the different techniques to new generations of electrologists.

Hi Josefa…a question from you?Nobody has described the technique where you deliver the pulse twice in a single insertion.I want you to explain it…how effective is it?One more thing…Cant we deliver the energy at three different levels with single insertion…that while withdrawing needle.I am frequent visitor to your site…but its in your language…I hope it would have english version too so I could be able to understand it…I could have conveyed information to my electrologist so atleast she could have been benifitted and in the process,me too.

Josefa…I am fan of you…But you are too much faraway from my place.

Far as I know, the multiple pulses technique is the basis of all systems that are included in the thermolysis of the Apilus machines. Perhaps the difference is to combine the advantages of the high-tech with the independence offered by the use of the pedal. Yes, we can release energy at three different levels in a same insertion. Each new pulse will expand the pattern of heat downwards or upwards depending on the location of the tip of the needle.

My blog does not contain much information that can be useful to a professional and that he or she does not know already. This is more focused on providing information to Spanish-speaking consumers. Unfortunately, there is very little information for them, on the other hand, while the information in English is never enough, it is much more abundant. However, I will try to offer a translation of the texts, seem to have more English-speaking visitors than people Spanish-speaking. :wink:

If something I’ve learned recently is that distances are very relative. I feel much more closeness from Norway, Russia, Italy or UK than from my neighbor next door. :slight_smile:

Josefa,
I would love to read your notes on technique.
But just to add my two pence, I often give many pulses once i’m in a follicle if i’m using a regular diathermy machine. I give around 3 hits at the papilla stage and then go around 3 more while moving my needle upwards. I have the current quite low which makes it more tolerable but its time consuming.

If im using an Apilus i do go in twice if the hair does not slide out which is often. But even then i do have at least 2 pulses per insertion. How do you manage to get it so spot on in your youtube videos. I can watch them for hours and burn in envy. I love it when you take the hairs out with your fingers after just a few seconds. Amazing.

I’m pretty sure that Josefa might be the Queen of the perfect insertion!! Perfect insertions come from having great vision and paying attention to the skin upon inserting.

A quality needle or Probe also pays for itself in ease of insertion.

I so appreciate this forum & the expert advise. I’m new to electrolysis and purchased an Apilis Platinum. I should have gotten a more thorough training on my machine; but I didn’t so here I am. I love Synchro & PicoFlash & use both most of the time. Multiplex is a puzzle to me; should I say frustrating to me. Would really appreciate any advise on when & how to use the Multiplex???

I restrict my use of Multiplex on fine hair, mostly fluff on women’s upper lips, sometimes also fine (accelereated vellus) hair in the face or fine, mostly telogen hairs on the body. Which means EL in the range of 63 to ~160. Not exclusively, quite often i also use Synchro with short timings (0.1-.13 secs) in these situations.

In my beginnings on the Platinum my preferred setting was leaned toward Josefa’s: timing 0.1/0.001 secs, the final flash signal 99%, the intensity of the “long” pulse setting the EL value.
Most of my clients prefer its slower equivalent: double timings and reduce intensity by a factor of 0.71 (that follows from the EL formula). Which means 0.2/0.002 secs, the latter 71 %, the first one again controlling the ELs and is in the range somewhere between 18 and 35 %)

I user Laurier tapered or Ballet Gold probes more often than the IBP in these cases - the insulated shaft of the IBP has only a limited used for those typically really shallow roots (and the multiplex signal seems to be sufficiently narrow).

Have you tried the reduced length Kelly tips for these Beate ?

Yes, and quite often i do not feel comfortable with them. IMO the best use of the Kelly tip IBPs is not to have shorter tips but to have thicker tips with the same length as the standard IBP one would normally use.

In other words: Your father has made a tremendously good job in optimizing the dimensions of the IBP which is really hard to beat :wink:

(BTW: as far as i remember the Kelly tips were optimized mostly using Picoflash on the Platinum - in a way similar to the Flash mode of the 13 MHz Apilus boxes Picoflash behaves significantly different from Multiplex or Synchro)

And please do not disregard Your tapered probes - they are great many situations. Especially in my typical application of Your tapered probe (short treatments on fine facial hair) the IBP is usually not an option at al because it is too expensive. I am really happy to have the tapered probe as an alternative. Otherwise i would use Ballets or Velonas for these clients, should i switch to those :wink: ?