Hi tech modern electrolysis care is not as archaic as one would think. We still target hair by hair, but we can move in a speedy death mode for all hair structures and colors on any color of skin. Archaic is cool, if that is meant to be an accurate description, because people get results - there is no gambling with electrolysis when it is performed with expertise and yes, I will add - a good set up with great lighting, magnification and a hi tech epilator. Let the debate begin. 
Iāll agree that the act and the process is somewhat archaic, remaining essentially unchanged for many, many years. However, the amount of precision and control available to the most talented and skilled electrologists today is what makes it dramatically less archaic. Digital microprocessor-controlled electrolysis machines allow electrologists to use lower energy settings, shorter/faster bursts of energy, and cause infinitely less reaction to the surrounding skin. It still requires physically inserting the probe and pulling out the hair, but those actions constitute much less than half the process.
It is the skill, talent, and especially the experience and knowledge of the electrologist that makes all the difference in the world, regardless of which machine is being used. It always has been, long before modern machines became available.
Wow,
I was not aware about newer technologies in electrolysisā¦ somehow the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear the word āelectrolysisā is a surgery room, 60ās style decor, and an old doctor in his 70ās wearing thick glasses and handling a very evil and odd looking torture deviceā¦ (you get the picture)
Solar, Can I ask you a question? What happens when a man gets sick and there is only one female doctor available in the hospital? It allows her to save his life? or should she let him die?
For an electrologist this is the same. Anyone who suffers from severe depression due to excess hair may be tempted to commit suicide. Should we allow this to happen, if it is in our hands to help?
I would disguise as a man if this was necessary, even I would grow my mustache if I still had it.
(The thick glasses is one of the things that remains in that scenario you describe) 
Here, in the bottom of the page there is an image of a group of young electrologists.
Hi tech modern electrolysis care is not as archaic as one would think. We still target hair by hair, but we can move in a speedy death mode for all hair structures and colors on any color of skin. Archaic is cool, if that is meant to be an accurate description, because people get results - there is no gambling with electrolysis when it is performed with expertise and yes, I will add - a good set up with great lighting, magnification and a hi tech epilator. Let the debate begin. [/quote]
Dee, youāll like to see this video.
Itās amazing how a modern Flash gets match the softness of traditional Blend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHDBGIaHODk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Meiri, I have heard many times saying that Electrolysis is a complement to laser because most of the work has been performed by the laser and only a few hairs treatment is needed for Electrolysis.
This statement makes me smile when I hear this. In most cases, what happens is just the opposite. The laser is an assistant who helps Electrolysis (and not vice versa) because it reduces the size of the hair, thus less energy is needed. Except in very specific cases such as bikini line and underarms, where the Electrolysis is the auxiliary, in other areas the auxiliary is the laser. In any case, since the beginning Electrolysis is cheaper than the combination of both technologies.
True words, Jossie.
The video was great, as usual.
Love,
Dee
Hi Josefa,
After your reply I realize that the difference between electrologysts in America/Europe and the few ones available in the Middle East/Asia are bigger than I initially thought.
For you, the electrolysis is closer to a medical practice conducted in a clinic whereas in Asia it is closer to a service provided in beauty parlors. The approaches are quite different.
I havenāt succeed in my attempt of finding a serious and reputable electrologyst willing to treat my nether areas and thus completing the job I started almost 3 years ago with laser on my arms, legs and torso. I am indeed lean to find one in Europe travel there few times a year to get my job done.
The laser is an assistant who helps Electrolysis (and not vice versa)ā¦ In any case, since the beginning Electrolysis is cheaper than the combination of both technologies. [/quote]
Couldānt agree more, josefa, hopefully the general public that has been bombard with the opposing view, will catch onā¦
Great work. How much did it cost him in total?
Im not sure what archaic is? Is an X-Ray archaic? although it does the perfect job we need it to do and its safe and its been around for around 100 years too. I have had $3,000 worth of laser treatments on my beard and moustache which was around 13 sessions of an hour. I was totally ripped off, there should be laws against robbing someone when your a business, there seems to be laws for individuals robbing another individual. Well they promised me everything and i have now taken it to the Office of fair trading in Australia as they totally lied to me. I have had 4 hrs of electrolysis and it was perfect!! also an experienced electrolygist like my laser was also experienced.
I am totally against laser as they market the wrong information and it is soooo much cheaper just getting electrolysis for actual results. Hopefully the government starts cracking down on this laser industry once they get enough complaints. Go electrolysis everyone!!!
I am also an electrolysis-only believer, Matt. Although slow, Electrolysis gives you NOTICEABLE results. Iām getting my arms done now and Iāve already seen an amazing improvement in simply thinning out the hairs; an improvement on my self-confidence as well! Iāve had my lower neck done (for dress shirts and ties, ingrowns etc) completely - no more shaving! Between my eye brows has also been done, I only ever have one or two minutes of maintenance each time I go for a 1+ hr session every week.
Just because you had a poor experience with laser doesnāt mean it doesnāt work. If you check out the laser forum, many have had excellent (>95%) results and have never seen regrowth for >5+ years. Iāve also treated hundreds of people, the overwhelming majority of which got excellent results.
Laser only works on coarse, dark hair. People that donāt get results either lack this, or went to a bad clinic, used a poor laser, low settings, or any combination of these.
Keep in mind that menās faces are hard areas to treat. You didnāt mention what kind of laser you had, what the settings were for each treatment, whether or not the hair shed, the intervals between treatments, etc.
Cost to benefit (electrolysis vs. laser) really depends on what area you are trying to treat, and what kind of hair you have. Large areas with coarse, dark hair like chest, armpit, legs, or bikini are better suited to laser. Electrolysis on these areas could take hours.
Laser and electrolysis both have their purposes. You have to do the research to decide which modality is more amenable to your specific needs.
I agree heartily with JMSR. I do electrolysis only. I am passionate about what I do, but I do realize that both modalities offer much relief to the hairy. Iām glad our posters are happy with their electrolysis experience. Good to hear, but the truth is that both modalities are awesome when used to their best advantage.
I had full-body laser hair removal with a Candela GentleLase alexandrite laser nine years ago, and achieved over 95% permanent hair removal. I have only two small spots on the lower arms (outside near each wrist) that eventually re-grew dark hair. I get these small areas waxed every few months. I donāt think it would take my electrologist more than 30 minutes to clear both of these areas using flash thermolysis.
I have to consult my notes do not make any mistakes, but I think until now, has cost about 3100 ā¬ . New areas such as shoulders, back and belly were added as we would end up with chest and stomach. We are also doing a little at the base of the neck.
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Cost to benefit (electrolysis vs. laser) really depends on what area you are trying to treat, and what kind of hair you have. Large areas with coarse, dark hair like chest, armpit, legs, or bikini are better suited to laser. Electrolysis on these areas could take hours.
Laser and electrolysis both have their purposes. You have to do the research to decide which modality is more amenable to your specific needs. [/quote]
In an ideal world, the laser technician should charge for the actual reduction that the client has obtained. This is the problem with the laser, people can not pay for nothing or very little. And this includes those who make a bad Electrolysis. People do not trust us until we ensure the total elimination for a fair price.
Im glad to see your excellent work Josefa. No excuses on what hair type, settings of machine or hair colour, just PROVEN ACTUAL PERMANANT RESULTS:)! Well done!
Thanks matt. Indeed, those who aspire to permanent hair removal have been all kinds of scams throughout our recent history. Consumer associations have managed to stop many of these scams, but it seems it is never enough. What was that phrase of Michael? Oh yes, you should not pay for services ānot providedā. I love this phrase.
Before the last session:
60 minutes later:
Hi Josefa,
how is doing you boy? Are you doing his back now? How how looks his chest/stomach? I would be happy to see how it looks now
Wish you a nice sunny day
Miro