Clients who want even the finest hairs gone?

I am curious as to what portion of your clients want even the finest hairs gone? And I don’t mean fine hair on womens’ chins and faces. I mean women who dislike fine hair on their arms or legs, men (like me) who dislike fine hair on their backs etc… Cases where you feel like the hair would not bother you if you swapped places with the client.

My previous two electrologists were surprised that I wanted all my fine back hair gone, but they did their work professionally after the surprise had worn off.

Also, is thermolysis the best option for fine hair in large areas such as the back?

Do you mean tiny hairs with pigment, or without pigment. I have never had anyone request for example, removal of blond leg hairs. Their concern is to have obvious pigmented hairs treated.

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Also, is thermolysis the best option for fine hair in large areas such as the back?[/quote]

Yes, thermolysis like picoflash or microflash would be the best option. You will get the job done quicker.

The percentage is not high, but it is a requested service…

Thermolysis makes the most sense to me because the number of hairs is high and you want fast removal.

Hands down, I’m doing one of the three thermolysis modes that my epilator offers.

I get many requests for removing fine, blond hair. :crazy:

I send Dee as many of my “fine blonde hair clients” as possible.

I am one of those people that want fine blonde hair removed, well it was fine until I started having electrologist. In the area that I’ve had treatment it is now slightly accellerated, I’m figuring thats because the Electrologist was merely stabbing away at the follicle without actually being able to see the follicle very well due to Cr*p visual equipment.

Excuse all the spelling mistakes in my last post, it’s been a long day! lol

max1970, did you know that you can edit your posts?

I only have fine pigmented hair, but interesting to know that some people with fine blonde hair also want that removed.

Sometimes I think I have some kind of OCD type disorder when it comes to body hair in certain areas.

So is fine hair almost always going to go away after one treatment (as opposed to thicker hair, which may take more than one treatment per my ex-electrologist).

Tembo, edit my posts, now that would be too easy! lol

I know I had OCD about the fine hair, it was probably the OCD that made it worse. What I mean is…having electrolysis on hair that was acceptable and really not that visible, with many electrolysis that either had poor skill or inadequate visual equipment. I just wish I left well alone, it was probably me that created the problem in the first place.

So far, I have seen all of …one… Thanks oh generous one, but I have plenty of blondies in C-bus :grin:

Be happy more don’t decide to take the drive :grin:

Yes, I think I am. Many look absolutely fine! They swear that they can see all these awful blond hairs in their car mirrors. Well, okay… but they look great!!! why are they spending the money when they look perfectly normal? Argh!!!

What exactly is the thing with visual equipment - does average equipment only prove a problem when hairs are both fine and blonde, or are even fine and pigmented hairs going to pose a problem?

Generally, fine and blonde.

My facial hairs so far have not been a problem. Although they are relatively fine and I bleach them, they are naturally dark so there are always plenty that have a dark root, easy for the electrologist to see.

The deal with visual equipment: Many electrologists use a magnifying lamp that has a large lens surrounded by a round light bulb. (Or other similar mag-light.) With that set-up, it is very difficult if not impossible to see the vellus hairs that many people want removed.

The deal with visual equipment: Many electrologists use a magnifying lamp that has a large lens surrounded by a round light bulb. (Or other similar mag-light.) With that set-up, it is very difficult if not impossible to see the vellus hairs that many people want removed. [/quote]

Even if you can see the hairs with a circle lamp, you can’t see the follicle opening the hair is coming out of. Depth perception is not great, nor is contrast in the line of sight from the field of vision with circle lamps.

Here are a few lighting question for the pros.

What type of additional illumination do you use for seeing and treating these fine, almost translucent hairs? Are some types of light (halogen/hot, LED/cool) better than others?

I answered your private message,but just should add that I may be checking out a cooler light source in the near future. If it works as well as what I use now, then I may switch.

Thanks Caith!

I agree with Dee, I found that lighting may be more important than magnification. I often use two light sources: 1) my overhead dental lamp and a very flexible parallel beam halogen so I can direct the beam of light at a 45 degree angle to highlight the blond hairs.

I also have a fiber-optic head set that fits on my surgical telescopes. This was an expensive unit but it doesn’t work very well, waste of money really. Dr. Chapple uses a gigantic surgical lamp (I have used it in his OR, but it’s almost too much light.) Dr. Perkins has a great head-set but the company is gone. Now that head-set is amazing!

The standard “loop-lamp” or circular lamp is impossible to use. You really do not want diffused light you want a parallel beam you can direct to make shadows, i.e., to see the follicle opening.