Can 10J - 12J provide results on Gentlelase 18mm?

Hair Removal Methods Laser hair removal
#21

This method is following an article published in Laser and Surgery Medicine dated 2007, which is the only medical paper I have seen on hyperstimulation. I am sure that I am the only person in the UK to be using it, and from what I hear and see, no-one here is actually admitting that hyperstimulation happens. We are a bit behind you…

I know that i have seen a link to the article that someone put on here to it some time ago, but cant find it at the moment.

Basically it recommends packing the clients face, in adjacent areas to that being lasered, with ice packs. So, if treating the sides of the face, put the ice packs underneath the area on the neck. I just wrap the whole area of the neck in ice for 10 - 15 minutes following treatment.

Importantly, I avoid using ice PRIOR to the procedure as this can decrease efficacy (of the treatment)

The paper recommends treatment of 12 - 14 j 18mm followed by a second pass 1 minute later of 8 - 10j.

I have never seen any adverse reaction at these levels (does it help with what I am saying in that the lower fluences CAN be effective?) though I would not use an 18 on a skin type 4 or higher, but would carry out the double pass on a 15mm

#22

I’m skin type 4 and I have done one session with Alexandrite (12J). Although at the clinic I’m treating the three types of lasers are available (YAG, Diode, Alexandrite), my technician suggested from her experience that it would be more effective to use Alexandrite with sets lower than usual than to use Diodo with higher settings. After the first session, all hair has shed and regrowth started after about 5 weeks. The hair seems thinner and less dense.

As some mentioned here that 12J is not enough power to damage the follicles permanently my question is: If the treated hair was not permanently affect (due to lack of laser energy), in how much time should it grow back as it was before treatment?

Anyways, for my next session, I’m requesting a test patch at 14J and 16J. Is that a good idea or should I jump to diode?

Cheers
Marcus

#23

Just another quick question. If switching over to YAG is a better option, what would be the appropriate settings then?

A little correction in my skin type. I’m between 3-4.

#24

Many things you read, especially those sponsored by the laser manufacturers, will suggest using low settings. They want to avoid burns and bad press. Your goal is removing hair, permanently. So your goal is a bit different. That’s why knowledgeable techs with these machines use higher settings at their clinics. But only experienced ones know what to do and how to do it properly and safely.

No, diode is LESS effective than an alex. You need effective settings on an alex to get permanent results. Switching to a less powerful laser is not how you achieve that.