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what type of hair do you have? coarse everywhere you’re treating? do you know what settings they are using?
personally, i would have tried one area first before making such a commitment. im wondering how much you’re paying and how long they’ve been in business. the problem sometimes is that since it costs the clinic money for each of your treatments (cryogen spray and laser maintenance is not free), it would seem weird for them to offer “lifetime” treatments, as at some point they will have too many people doing free treatments to justify staying in business. just something to consider.
yes, please post some pictures. i’m sure it would be helpful to others. and there are a few people doing their face with an alex laser on here and posting pictures. you can check them out. one thing to consider about your face is that you might experience some patchiness in the beginning and you would also need to finish up with electrolysis if you want 100% of hairs removed. if you’re just looking for a good reduction and you have coarse hair, that’s not a problem.
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great. your posts are always appreciated here. and yes, knowing settings would help. maybe you can call and ask. there are a few posts on the forum about some of this chain’s locations where those people were treated at only 10 and 12 joules - usually not high enough to permanent removal. so hopefully, this location will treat you at higher settings. usually, treating at the highest settings possible each time will produce the best results fastest. the reason i’m mentioning this again is because you said that the pain was comfortable for many of the areas, which it usually isn’t at high settings. i hope you can understand that we’re just looking out for your best interests and trying to avoid future general laser ineffectiveness reports when the settings might not have been high enough to cause permanent reduction in the first place.
good luck with your treatments.
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i’m not sure how long you’ve been reading the forums or how many studies you’ve read, but i can tell you that from 2 yrs of at least reading others’ experiences on 3 forums as well as advice by experienced technicians and clinic owners, shedding doesn’t mean the follicles were killed and everyone who was treated at low settings who posted here didn’t get results and those who were treated at high enough settings (which hurt) did. in addition, you will find posts by those who tried low settings and didn’t get results and then switched to higher settings and did. this is not MY personal hypothesis. read others’ experiences and posts by sslhr who owns a number of clinics and has been operating since 1997.
once again, i don’t care to get into arguments either. i contribute to these forums because i actually got results and am trying to help others who didn’t or those looking for information in order to get results as well. if you don’t want it, ignore it. others do find it helpful and it helps them get results. obviously, the information i provide is based on my thorough research which obviously worked out for me since i DID get results. there have been others on the forum (names don’t need to be mentioned) who decided they knew everything they need to know, spent thousands of dollars, and then came back here bashing laser as an ineffective hair removal method. Once again, trying to avoid this in this case in advance. It’s easy to be optimistic now, but 1 year and $7K later, I’m sure you will be pretty upset if you get little or no results. Just helping get things right the first time around, that’s all. I hope you can see this.
good luck with your treatments like i said. just realize that settings have a lot to do with results, so when you’re posting a story, it’s helpful for others to know what was used on you. because afterwards, if you do or do not get the results you expect, others have the complete data to try to decide why.
p.s. 18 joules is good on this laser if 18mm spot size is used. if 15mm is used, you can probably go higher as the effectiveness of the joules decreases with decrease in the spot size.
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that’s not what i meant. what i meant is that some clinics are too cautious on purpose because they would rather you not get any results than you get burned and sue them. what an experienced technician should be doing is testing your skin to see how high they can go and treat at an effective setting you can handle well, rather than just rely on a chart which is notoriously cautious (made by manufacturers who don’t want to get sued either in this sue-happy society <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ).
and i have read plenty of studies. we keep track of some of them that are available online at the cosmetic enhancements forum. you can check it out when you have some time.
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i did not say “turn up the settings” at the expense of your health. that’s what you said. i said: make sure the clinic has your best interests in mind and does test spots etc to figure out what settings your skin can handle if it’s questionnable (type III or IV). all experienced clinics do this anyways if they’re not sure. For example, if you’re a skin type V or VI and the clinic only has a GentleLASE machine, but still offers to treat you, that’s one huge sign that you should be looking for new clinic. Because, yes, they can treat you, but at the settings they would have to set to avoid burning you, they will make the money you will pay them, but you won’t get the results you have paid for (i.e. you need a different laser, a Yag, to begin with, which they don’t have). i’m glad you’re optimistic about the clinics performing LHR out there, but if you read these forums for a bit longer, you will see that more places than you would think don’t know what they’re talking about (this is from personal experience as well).
please don’t “muddy the waters” to make your point.
p.s. you can read the “success stories” sticky post on the other forum i’ve mentioned above. you’ll see a very interesting pattern among those who got results. then, read some negative stories, and you’ll see an interesting pattern there.
LA Girl - go bother someone else. Jeez…
I was going to post my experiences here but LA Girl only wants to argue and show how “knowledgeable” she is on all matters regarding LHR.
My posts will only get lost in all her “expert” banter. This website should consider banning her or limiting her postings. I’m sure she’s helped people in the past - but too much of a good things … etc etc…
I’ll try again another time to post my experience - for now, just read LA Girl’s posting as she knows everything.
LA Girl - go bother someone else. Jeez…
I was going to post my experiences here but LA Girl only wants to argue and show how “knowledgeable” she is on all matters regarding LHR.
My posts will only get lost in all her “expert” banter. This website should consider banning her or limiting her postings. I’m sure she’s helped people in the past - but too much of a good things … etc etc…
I’ll try again another time to post my experience - for now, just read LA Girl’s posting as she knows everything.
I don’t always agree with LA Girl, but I find that almost everything she says is correct. And I have never found her posting to argumentative, though I do think she occasionally gets her dander up responding to others who tend to be argumentative.
What I find interesting by the dates is that you first started posting just a few days ago, you deleted all your posts, and then you accuse someone of various indiscretions without leaving your posts to judge the other side of the discussion. Almost seems like a hatchet job on someone who spends a lot of time and effort trying to help others . . .
this is a forum. how was I bothering you? I was misunderstood or misconstrued, so all I did was clarify what I meant for the good of those people who will be reading this later. If that bothers you, I’m not sure what I can say. Good luck with your treatments and hope you find it helpful to post here for others.