Be careful

I am a guy with black hair and skin type 3 to 4. They used a Cutera Coolglide Yag on me. I had random stray strands/patches of dark hair on my shoulders and upper arms and upper back. The hair was the lightest on the upper back.

My chest was a lot hairier than the previously mentioned areas. But I did the other areas with the chest, because they offered it for free as a deal they had going on at the time. Now its been about 3 years since.

I got about 12 to 13 treatments over 2 years. I got about 60 percent (maybe more, hard to tell) reduction on chest where the hair was darkest. Especially around the middle of my chest. Towards the sides however, HAIR GROWTH ACTUALLY INCREASED. I’m assuming it is because, the hair was lighter there. But that I can live with, because at least there was some reduction.

But here is the worst part. My shoulders, ESPECIALLY BOTH my upper arms and my upper back have WAY MORE noticeably darker hair on them. I use to look relatively normal, a little hairier than normal in those areas, but now I look just ridiculous. The induced hair growth stretches down my upper back and its disgusting and so unnatural now. My upper arms have more hair on them than the lower portions where I never got treated. I look like a fool.

The worst park is before I ever got laser, I did plenty of research and read plenty about laser induced hair growth, even a couple peer reviewed articles about it. However when I talked to the laser clinician she comforted me about the process, and reassured repeatedly that I would see results albeit not 100 percent elimination, but I never expected that. When I brought up laser induced growth, she reassured me with comments like, “If I could induce hair growth, I’d be making a lot more money.” Those kinda comments.

Despite everything I knew, I did the procedure anyway, because I figure induced hair growth probably occurs only on lighter hairs and vellus hairs. And the hair on my shoulders albeit sporadic was very dark and had good contrast wiht my skin. And now there is an even coat of hair on those areas which I NEVER HAD before.

The reason I don’t understand why laser clinicians are so optimistic, is that no ones body hair stops abruptly. So even if they are treat areas with thicker hair. They are going to end up treating areas with lighter hair, and induce growth in those areas and nearby areas. Just like it happened on my upper back and the sides of my chest/abdomen.

Now i know what people will say. That hair grows in cycles. That we grow hair as we get older. blah blah blah. But clearly if it was a minor increase in hair growth or a lack of reduction I woudlnt be so upset, but to make the very condition you are trying to treat this much worse makes me very upset.

It is very obvious the hair growht wwas induced becsue it looks very uneven compared with the nearby untreated areas such as my lower arms or my mid back. Not only that, I use to be way less hairer than my dad in those areas and in general. And I still am in every single area but the shoudlers, upper back, and upper arms where my dad has very sparse amounts as I once did.

I guess maybe I’ll try electrolysis one day, but obviously I’m wary at best, because these are larger areas. Who knows what I’ll do. I should have just done nothing like most dudes ha

Don’t even tell us how much money you spent, but you can if you want. Is the laser clinic aware of your induced hair growth? Can you demand your money back?

A Speedy Gonzales type electrologist can do large areas. If you can be compensated for your induced hair growth, you can use the money for permanent hair removal via electrolysis.

We need a thread for these first time stories about laser induced hair growth. What a pattern of comments we have seen over the last ten years. mmmmm …mmmmmmm.

I tried the Tria for over a year. IT DID NOT WORK & THEN IT BROKE. I did not
bother getting it fixed since I had already wasted 1,000.00, and one year.
I went for Electrolysis which I understand has been approved by the FDA as PERMANENT HAIR REMOVAL!
It’s working great for me!

Dianne

What areas did you focus on with the Tria? This product has been out long enough for us to know if it is a great at home product for the hairy. We are not hearing much about it, so thanks for taking your time to give an opinion.

I’ve purchased the Tria in 2008 and used it on my knuckles. I wanted to let you all know that til this day, the hairs on my knuckles are much lighter than before. I remembered using it extensively for about 2 months straight and an occasional zapping here and there afterwards. I stopped using it 9 months after purchasing it due to personal reasons.

Well, today I decided to use it again for other areas and the darn battery is dead. I know the charge cycle on my unit is less that 100. From reading the articles, Tria will not accept any sympathies from you to try to fix the unit if it’s out of warranty. So what did I do with a non working unit? Hack it of course. I opened it and found that it uses 4 C Cell NiMH batteries bundled together (have to go home and confirm this). I will try to see if I can purchase batteries and rig this thing to work again.

Is this product worth the $1000 I paid for it? Probably not with the cheap, non replaceable batteries they are using.

Another negative report about this pricey product. Thanks for taking your valuable time to add to this thread, magic.

The following is for entertainment purposes only…

Until recently, many lap top computers also had “cheap NiMH batteries” hidden inside a proprietary case, so they could charge you $350 for a new proprietary battery-filled case, when all you needed were $20 - $40 worth of replacement batteries from Radio Shack. If you can arrange to reset the new batteries inside the thing the same way they had them, you will have success. Of course, if you know anyone good at electronics (a local repair shop maybe) you could just convert the thing to work on a plug in cord. Any 4 C-Cell appliance adapter cord with the block type plug would supply the correct power, and you would need only connect the wires to a standard AC power-in connection and close the case. (one small hole to accommodate the new plug in spot being the most major renovation of the unit)

Oh, yeah, and my lawyer wants me to tell you once again, that the preceding was for entertainment purposes only.

I was thoroughly entertained.

:slight_smile:

Does no one else think its very unlikely if not complete fantasy that someone would have 13 treatments over 2 years, find it grows more hair and THEN come and make a post on here?

Sounds like a pure unadulterated plug for one of our electrologist friends to me.

Just a thought, if laser only killed thick hair and made thin hair grow thick then surely at the next treatment it would kill the newly made thick hair?

Who? no electrologist was mentioned here.

A plug for electrolysis?! Perhaps it should be!

This story is frightfully common among people who’ve had laser, while I’ve heard nothing of the like from people who had electrolysis.

Don’t worry, Christine, John Sheff suffers from what I call Stockholm syndrome. Often among people that they have opted for the laser and then discover that there is a more effective option. The Messenger, i.e, we the electrologists, suffer attacks from these individuals.
This symptom disappears - along with the hairs - when they give an opportunity to the Electrolysis.

John Sheff,

i did have IPL treatments. High energy with a device proven to be as efficient as the lasers. 11 sessions, and i observed massive regrowth. After that i have had electrolysis sessions. 14 hours in my face with severe complicationswhich i documented here a few years ago followed by an inefficient further treatment.

Then i decided to become an alectrologist by myself.

Concerning to the induced growth: although i have far less experience than most of the other pracitioners active here i have already helped some clients with laser induced harir growth which is, as the thread opener mentioned, is well documented in the medical literature.

You lose time, Beate, John Sheff has made clear his retrograde and sexist attitude about the role of women in our society, keep in mind that our collective consists mainly of independent women who do not expect to live on the income of their husbands or lovers.

John Sheff - there is no conspiracy.

As you can see, I am both pro-Laser and pro-electrolysis.

And although I have had very successful Laser treatments - how many people can say they removed about 90% of lower leg hairs in 3 sessions?

I always tell women who ask me, not to risk Lasering their faces. I had first hand accounts from relatives and acquaintances of laser induced growth. Some continued Laser for more than 2 years because the technicians told them they need further Laser to remove the growth - for some reason it does not work!

The experiences on this forum and the clients electrologists see on a regular basis we know this is also true for male areas such as the shoulders and upper back.

Laser is limited in what it can treat and people need to be aware and careful that they only treat suitable hair on suitable areas.

I have had two (!!) very successful IPL sessions on my chest and my stomache.

I always tell women who ask me, not to risk Lasering their faces. I had first hand accounts from relatives and acquaintances of laser induced growth.

I have simmilar accounts. In addition of several cases of (white) regrowth of male facial hair.

Laser is limited in what it can treat and people need to be aware and careful that they only treat suitable hair on suitable areas.

Indeed. This is the way to go. All which remains is more than enough for a (potentially) good living of all electrolgists everywhere on the world.

Don’t worry, Christine, John Sheff suffers from what I call Stockholm syndrome. Often among people that they have opted for the laser and then discover that there is a more effective option. The Messenger, i.e, we the electrologists, suffer attacks from these individuals.
This symptom disappears - along with the hairs - when they give an opportunity to the Electrolysis. [/quote]

Haha…I do remember the Stockholm syndrome Josefa!
It is sad that many dont give that opportunity to Electrolysis. They prefer to have the diagnose of Stockholm syndrome instead… :crazy:

What can one do? Just inform about the fantastic wonders of Electrolysis! :smiley:

I see now, Thank you Josefa.

http://www.hairgrowthnews.com/hirsutism-hypertrichosis/hirsutism-hypertrichosis-laser-induced.shtml
Copy & paste this link, PLEASE!
It is called 'Paradoxical Hypertrichosis"

I hope everyone considering laser modality for hair removal would take a few minutes and read this startling information. I’ve been dying to post it somewhere! I wish you all the best with your electrologist.

Expert,

Thanks for posting this link. I will copy and paste on the laser forum and make it a sticky. It’s very important. My hope is that a national/ international data base will be created so we can get some numbers or percentages about where and how often bad side effect occurs. If anyone has data on this, please share!