arm hair, spent a whole lot of money and isn't working, why?

I have been going to a electroloysis for two years, four hours a week to remove the hair on my arms. Have spent a fortune. The operator and I first started using thermoloysis, she set the machine on arm hair at a high current. She would insert the needle, the machine would beep twice and then she would remove the hair. The problem with this was the hair was growing back faster than the scabs could heal. I then asked her to switch to the blend although she never learned the blend in school she said she read up on the technique and practiced it. So we have been using the blend. The same with this method, she inserts the needle, when the machine beeps she removes the hair. I geet red bumps that last an hour or two but although I scab, it’s not as bad. The problem is that after so many hours I haven’t seen and permanent results. We keep clearing regrowth. Two hours on one arm and two on the other. She’ll clear the regrowth in one area and by the next week I’ll have regrowth in another area of the arm. I keep going back because I really want to clear my arms and hope that eventually I will start seeing results. I would like to add that when she removes the hair even on the regrowth, I hardly ever see a root. Is she not going into the follicle deep enough? My arms have also hyperpimentation from all the work? What could we be doing wrong? She is very nice but when I ask her if she has every cleared someone successfully she never gives me a staight answer. She talks alot about the clients she has since I been going to her so often we are sort of close. She has this man who she works on his back. Once she said she spent 3 hours on his back and cleared it but he has been going as long as I have and is stilling going. So I assuming that he’s going through the same thing as me with the hair coming back and hoping the regrowth will stop. Please explain what could be going wrong? I want my arms free of hair and have given up two years of my life trying to do this but it’s not working. I had also taken my mom to her to remove some chin hairs but the hairs again kept coming back, mom gave up and said that plucking lasted just as long! I hope you could give me some insite. Also sometimes she moves the needle around hoping this will help get the root out but it doesn’t.

The one problem with electrolysis is it takes so long that you build up very close friendships with your practicioner.
I guess that might make it very difficult to switch to a new one!!

But if you’ve been going to this same one for 2 years without much improvement, you might owe it to yourself to try someone else…
Why not pick somewhere that your first practicioner isn’t doing (like your upper arms, say). And ask a second electrolysist to treat just that area.

You’ll be able to compare results without upsetting your regular practicioner.

If the results are the same, then you might need to think of a different method. (Like laser?)
If the second electrolysist gives better resuls (hairs with roots, less regrowth, and so on), then you might want to consider switching practicioners.

The thing with electrolysis (especially diathermy/thermolysis) is a lot depends on the insertion. If that probe doesn’t go near enough the blood supply at the base of the follicle, then you won’t kill the hair.
That could be happening for several reasons - one of which is twisted follicles.

Trying a control patch with a second practitioner should give you enough information to make a decision, anyway.

I went to a very nice woman who became a good friend, but she wasn’t the most talented person out there. In hidsight I would have spent more time researching an electrologist.

Practitioner skill is the single most important factor in how well treatment goes. You don’t menrtion how you chose yours, but it’s really important to go to someone who is recommended by a consumer who is done and happy.

Another suggestion is to see if she is a C.P.E. they must keep up with the changes that are made with electrolysis and the like. Continued Ed is very important. Some Electrologist who havent taken that extra step of getting Nationally Certified are happy with where they are. No one to answer to. Insertions play an important role as Andrea said, but also being able to adjust your settings and play with a few different settings til you find the right one is important. Don’t waste any more time and money if your not happy and have questions with your present electrologist. Move on there are lots of experienced ones out there. Good Luck to you. An electrologist.

</font><blockquote><font size=“1” face=“Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif”>quote:</font><hr /><font size=“2” face=“Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif”>Originally posted by skopie:
<strong>I have been going to a electroloysis for two years, four hours a week to remove the hair on my arms. Have spent a fortune. The operator and I first started using thermoloysis, she set the machine on arm hair at a high current. She would insert the needle, the machine would beep twice and then she would remove the hair. The problem with this was the hair was growing back faster than the scabs could heal. I then asked her to switch to the blend although she never learned the blend in school she said she read up on the technique and practiced it. So we have been using the blend. The same with this method, she inserts the needle, when the machine beeps she removes the hair. I geet red bumps that last an hour or two but although I scab, it’s not as bad. The problem is that after so many hours I haven’t seen and permanent results. We keep clearing regrowth. Two hours on one arm and two on the other. She’ll clear the regrowth in one area and by the next week I’ll have regrowth in another area of the arm. I keep going back because I really want to clear my arms and hope that eventually I will start seeing results. I would like to add that when she removes the hair even on the regrowth, I hardly ever see a root. Is she not going into the follicle deep enough? My arms have also hyperpimentation from all the work? What could we be doing wrong? She is very nice but when I ask her if she has every cleared someone successfully she never gives me a staight answer. She talks alot about the clients she has since I been going to her so often we are sort of close. She has this man who she works on his back. Once she said she spent 3 hours on his back and cleared it but he has been going as long as I have and is stilling going. So I assuming that he’s going through the same thing as me with the hair coming back and hoping the regrowth will stop. Please explain what could be going wrong? I want my arms free of hair and have given up two years of my life trying to do this but it’s not working. I had also taken my mom to her to remove some chin hairs but the hairs again kept coming back, mom gave up and said that plucking lasted just as long! I hope you could give me some insite. Also sometimes she moves the needle around hoping this will help get the root out but it doesn’t.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size=“2” face=“Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif”>

HI!!! I Have found a method for hair removal that really really works!!! And I want to share it with anyone who is going through the same nightmare that I did. Here’s how it happened: A friend from work who had the same problem that I did (too much body hair in places where it’s not supposed to be) found this specialist on hair removal and she tried on her chin and it worked for her. She told me about it a few months later and without any doubt I went to go see this specialist to ask questions, get quotes $ (that’s very important for me because I’m not rich) I’ve had it done on my face ( cheeks, chin, upper lip) and underarms. I have a hormonal problem and I’m a female, so you can imagine how horrible it has been for me. Well, no hair is growing back!!! Now my face looks beautiful and cleaner! I truly recommend this method from my heart, If you want to chat with me, don’t hesitate to write me and ask any questions you have. I’ll be glad to share my experience with you. I hope I’ve helped you. Take care.

[ October 27, 2002, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: Andrea ]

Nena, please provide the brand name of the product or service you are using and the method. I’d also like to know the name of the practitioner or salesperson. That way we can have an open discussion. Thanks

Nena what is the method you have discovered? You may be able to help many people. I’m happy it worked for you. I’m not sure why if there is a low cost permanent solution to this hair problem it wouldn’t be world news but please share your info, thanks.

Am I going to be put out of business??? HeeHee just kidding I wish someone would find a new method. Anxiously awaiting an answer!

Skopie,
Hi, Hello, How are ya?
Just wanted to let you know, you sent me a message, I couldnt reply to send you one back.
The little box came up and said, you were not accepting private messages. I tried several times, how about a little help here :confused:

Cmon NENA tell us your method. I C, u want me to send u an email so you can send me a link to buy something. I C how it is.

:grin:

As you know I have tried this method and it really seemed to work for me, this laser beam has a cooling system that protects your skin before and while the laser beams are destroying the “womb” of the hair follicle. So this cooling system protects your skin form any skin burns possible. I have done my own research on hair removal before trying this specific this one. I’ve been to this hair removal place before called “Renassance” and they were very very expensive to the one that I’m currently going to now.
From my experience I can tell you that they are not that expensive and it’s very safe. Besides myself at least 6 people I know have tried it and they were happy, but I’ll give the website address so you can look it up yourself. WWW.BodyRe-Nous.com
If you ever decide to try them please let me know :smile:
Nena

Sorry Guys! HERE’s The CORRECT POST MESSAGE! (disregard previous one above since it has many errors :smile:
ok.
As you know I have tried this method and it really seemed to work for me, this laser beam has a cooling system that protects your skin before and while the laser beams are destroying the “womb” of the hair follicle. So this cooling system protects your skin from any skin burns possible. I have done my own research on hair removal before trying this specific one method. I’ve been to this hair removal place before called “Renassance” (which I do not recommend!) and they were very very expensive compared to the one that I’m currently going to now.
From my experience I can tell you that “bodyrenous” is not that expensive and it’s very safe. Besides myself at least 6 people I know have tried it and they were happy with the results, but I’ll give the website address so you can look it up yourself and won’t think Im lying :smile: It’s WWW.BodyReNous.com
phone # 972-255-BODY in Dallas, TX
If you ever decide to try them please let me know :smile:
Ok Good Luck, e-mail me back
Nenaismean@aol.com

Thanks for providing the specifics, NENA! :wink:

In looking at the site, they seem to overhype their lasers a bit, but they do claim to use two good devices, the GentleLASE and the Palomar diode. If you have further comments about this method or practitioner, please put them in the laser section. Thanks!

[ November 03, 2002, 02:12 AM: Message edited by: Andrea ]

You know, I was treated with longer pulse widths with the Lightsheer, up to 100 ms. I did notice a difference. It seemed the most effective and resulted in the least regrowth. The downside is that the long pulse widths make the laser slower so you can’t treat as large of an area during a treatment session. There are always trade-offs.

There is no way they can treat entire back using long pulses in 56 minutes though.

RJC2001