I apologize if this is the wrong section to post in but I did not see a section for appliances only.
I am a student (starting course in the new year) looking for a practice machine and there are 2 Apilus Electropil Senior machines available from 2 different ladies. They are each 15-20 years old (the machines, not the ladies).
One has never been used and one has had a lot of use but is in good condition.
What is a fair price for these machines?
One is asking $1000. I said absolutely not for something so old. I was thinking 400-500.
The other is included with a chair, bed, lamp, autoclave - all about the same age I’m guessing - for $1800.
I don’t have enough experience yet to know which is best.
To give You some feeling: i paid EUR 1500 for an 8 year old Apilus Junior which had been used only occasionally. I do not consider this extremely cheap, but i needed the device because of a defect in my previous production tool.
First of all, you will be lucky to find a machine capable of doing all 3 modalities for less than $800.00 US. Secondly, electrolysis machines don’t typically break, so it would not matter if the machine were one year old, or 30 years old, the odds it needs any work are slim, and even if it did, the work would typically be less than $100 to fix it. I have reconditioned non-working units for no more than $250.00 In fact the most I ever paid to have a unit reconditioned involved remanufacturing an optional feature on the machine no longer offered by the manufacturer.
The apilus machines have prices that reach $10,000 retail, and most of them are still in use by the original purchaser. It is rare that one would find one for sale on the used market. As one of the most sought after items, that represents an upgrade to most professional’s equipment, you will pay more than some 20 year old analogue unit in a metal box with stereo knobs that could be cobbled together by a kid with a radio science kit and a soldering iron.
In my search I’ve found that the Fischer CB=X is impossible to get a deal on, I’ve had 2 sold out from under my nose after I made an offer! These 2 Apilus have been up for sale for a month. Maybe it’s less popular in Canada, which is odd considering it’s made here.
Would you be interested in this? An Ohio electrologist listed this Apilus Junior. I can give a phone number if you desire.
Equipment for sale
For Sale
Apilus Junior Plus
Purchased from Dectro International in Canada.
Purchased used – machine has been furbished in Dectro Maintainance Dept.
Includes all new cords!
I opened box and tested all aspects of this machine. Everything is in working order.
Junior Original price – $2795.00 (new)
I purchased used for $1800.00
Selling for $1595.00
Thermo, flash, blend, omni blend, 13.56 MHz technology, current adjustable to 1/100 of a second, 256 programs adapted to 8 body areas, tolerance test, skin analyzer, programmable timer.
Sounds like a great machine! I think it’s going to work out with one of the 2 machines I mentioned in my original post but I"ll get back to you if it doesn’t.
So I’ve made offers of $700 on both machines. Both sellers accepted so now I have to decide between the two.
My concern is that since I’m not a trained electrologist yet I don’t know how to test the machine to see if it works. One is being sold by the daughter of the owner and all we know how to do is turn it on and watch the display light up.
I’m not sure whether it would be better to take the machine that’s been in a box for 15 years or one that seen steady use over the same period.
Odds are they both work just fine if it powers up. The stuff you usually have to replace are the cords. One rarely needs to actually open the machine up and work on the circuit board. If you do find that you need some work on it, that can be done at any one of 3 places in the US depending on your location. Frequently, they can even send you a loaner machine while yours is in the shop. All things being equal, I would go for the package that comes with the treatment set up, as you will need that stuff anyway. When you upgrade things, you can sell that starter stuff off to the next student.