WARNING - Laser burns

Hair Removal Methods Laser hair removal
#21

ha yeah, I don’t expect to get a huge payday at all. Tbh I will be pretty lucky to get my money back here. If I do get my money back I will likely just drop it.

Otherwise I will probably consult with a lawyer. Problem is in Thailand with hired guns being available for a few hundred bucks these cases often don’t see the light of day… (I’m serious - it’s common.)

Good point about laser burns James. I actually feel a little sorry for the tech as she seemed pretty upset and I’m not sure she did anything wrong tbh. I feel like the machine just malfunctioned or it was some weird once-off reaction to my skin for whatever reason.

Not sure anyone is really to blame anyway. Just one of those things where risks are involved I guess.

#22

You need to see a doctor right away; hopefully, prompt treatment can minimize the scarring. I would NEVER go back to the place that did this. It’s clear they don’t have a clue what they are doing.

#23

As someone with dark skin who has been burned with laser in the past I never thought I’d come on here and see someone with light skin with the kind of marks you’ve got!

I wish you much luck and agree with Andrea and others re: doctors and lawyers.

#24

If you can get access to low laser machine such as the Zerona, a few minutes of treatment on those burns will get it to heal VERY fast, and probably won’t leave much/any scars.

#25

They have a doctor there who is looking at it. I have been going in every day and they rub some creams on it. Not sure what. Don’t think there is any treatment that can miraculously heal it without leaving marks. It either does or doesn’t I guess - just trying to prevent infections

The only blame that can really be laid at the clinic is if she could have stopped the procedure earlier or the machine wasn’t well maintained. Similar could easily have happened at the most reputable clinic out there

#26

It probably would be hard to sue unless you signed something or had permanent scars. The American’s sue for someone giving them a dirty look. I’d just try to at least get your money back and try to find somewhere else.

#27

The Zerona laser can do magic for burns, trust me.
I doubt you can get access to it though, but worth a search in your area.

#28

This is not true. The tech should have known the skin was getting a burned reaction. That’s where experience comes in.

#29

I’m not sure if she would have known with more experience or not. I know I looked down after she finished my chest and it just looked red like normal. Was definitely some kind of delayed reaction.

I also remember she started lathering that cool gel on my chest half way through doing my stomach (which was unusual) so I imagine that’s probably when she had an idea.

I think everyone was taken a bit by surprise seeing as 45J was used just the day before. You don’t expect to DROP it by 10J and get burnt

#30

Just to cover your bases, try to increase your intake of Vitamins A, C, D-3, and E with additional zinc, as they will help heal and build good skin.
Although it seems to be common for some burns like this to resolve to where people don’t notice them from across a room, I can’t say that I have seen where someone very close to you can’t tell where it happened. They may not know what it is, but there is usually some pattern, or discoloration left over.

Keep in mind that Vitamin C is used up in 4 hours, so for best results you would get some (via food, or supplements) every 4 hours at the least. If you take too much Vitamin C, your bowels flush, step back on the amount for a while. Vitamin E needs to at least be taken in the morning and again in the evening 1200 IU’s minimum (food sources range from wheat germ to fish oils & of course supplements can be used)

#31

I still think they screwed up, and should have known better. When I got burned, I immediately noticed after the first zap that it hurt WAY more than the other sessions. Like a fool, I said something and the “technician” swore that it was just because they’d upped the energy a little bit. Well, it wasn’t…the spacer on the laser was broken, and every time they fired the laser it was roasting my skin. I ended up with a grid burned into each underarm.

I don’t believe they turned it down and burned you. I think they cranked it way up and didn’t realize it, or the machine was defective and they didn’t realize it. I would definitely get a second opinion, and not trust what the laser people and their doctors tell you.

#32

When something like that happens the clinic would get the service provider to come and see if it’s defective or not, if they don’t do a good job they will get a 2nd opinion from a freelancer service provider.

#33

Well I dunno if they should have known better. Like I say, I had a look at my chest when she finished it and I saw no evidence of burns - just looked red like normal. There is definitely a delayed reaction of some sort, but I’m not sure if with more experience you could pick something up.

I do know for a fact they turned it down and burnt me. I keep an eye on the joules all the time (it is a big number on the front of the machine.)

I have no way of knowing whether the machine malfunctioned or not. It is certainly a strong possibility. The clinic did say they checked it and have used it on other customers with no similar issues fwiw.

BTW I didn’t notice it hurting more than normal. I still felt a lot of the needle like pain zapping the hair, but didn’t notice burning pain. I did use numbing cream, which probably stopped me feeling as much pain on the skins surface

#34

Several LASER people have told me that if one does LASER, one WILL eventually get a result like this. One does all one can to avoid it, and yet, this happens for no apparent reason. It is one of the reasons I chose not to add Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation to my practice. At least if I make a mistake with Electrolysis, I usually know what has happened, and even in the rare case that I don’t, the amount of area where that problem would exist is limited.

As much as some people will want to say that the right training and the right skill set can avoid this, I have it from some of the most sought after teachers in the LASER field that this outcome is just an eventuality. If you roll the dice enough times, sooner or later, you roll double ones.

#35

It’s like saying planes could fall off the sky or cars blow up without any reason.

#36

No, it is not.
It is like saying if you fly planes long enough, you will eventually end up landing in the wrong city for one reason or another, and if you drive cars long enough, you will be involved in an accident, be it large or small. If you ride a bike, you will eventually fall off, and maybe even scrape your knees. If you use telephones, you will eventually get the wrong number. When you bake cakes, you will eventually do everything right, and yet the cake will fall, or fail to rise.

That is a more realistic parallel, instead of an exaggeration.

#37

Still makes my point :slight_smile:

#38

James, that’s a ridiculous statement. So, I’ll say if you do electrolysis enough, at some point your machine will malfunction or you will make a human error and will cause permanent scarring. Let’s be unbiased here, shall we?

#39

I am so much more unbiased than the statements I have responded to, that I will correct your statement to say that it should read:

#40

We have yet to see any posts with permanent scarring as a result of a burn from LHR. The only permanent scarring complains on the forum are from electrolysis patients. Most of LHR burns are superficial and side effects resolve completely with some time. I can’t say that for the people complaining of scarring from electrolysis. I lost count of the number of posts complaining of that. Some say that they don’t mind it because they prefer some scarring or pigmentation to hair.