wanting my thick beard thinned out

Exactly. Let the beard grow a few days and remove thicker hair. Man’s beard in 2 out of 3 hairs are in growth phase, the two longer to be reached. The fine hair will remain flush with the skin, because it is in a resting phase (telogen) and because it takes more days to reach the length to be removed. So the choice is possible.

I do not intend to create false expectations, I just try to make probable solutions.

live1,

I’m actually the client that James was talking about in the earlier posts. He is absolutely right. My beard has grown back lighter and it’s not patchy at all. I’m actually going for full removal on the whole cheeks and neck area but I could easily keep my facial hair the way it is now and no one would be able to tell. No shadow, No scars, No redmarks.

I think what keeps it from being patchy is that an even number of hairs grow back on your face(much less hair) but most of them grow back lighter. I would post pictures but it’s just sort of not my thing.

Also, if I could give a recommendation. Why not go see a proven facial hair specialist like James? I drove six hours to get treatment from James and not to sound melodramatic but he changed my life. If you go to someone who is proven you don’t need to worry about getting scars or patchiness. Can you imagine how your life would be if you got a bad treatment from someone? Have you read some of the stories on this forum? Not trying to scare you, it’s just something I believe more people should do.

Hey James.

Sorry I didn’t let you use my pictures. (I think you’re talking about me, the guy who drove 6 hours from Maryland)

I don’t know about “many”, but I do know that “the majority” don’t remove at least 10 hairs per minute. I personally tried 4 electrologists, 3 of whom used the new Apilus machines, and none of them were that fast even though they were very experienced. One removed hair from TG clients and was a TG herself, and another was an instructor at an electrolysis school.

Live - “clearance” means all visible hair at one point in time is removed. However, hair grows in cycles, so you have more hair.

Hi:

Actually judging from a video I saw of Josefa working I think 10 hairs per minute is easily possible for her as for any accomplished electrologist using thermolysis.

If they inserted and treated several hairs one after another,
lets say 3 or 4 and then removed them, then did the same over and over, I could see them doing 10 hairs or more within a minute.

Now if they treated one, removed one or used blend then it would mean removing less hair per minute.

Alicia

fireoflames are you the guy on james site with the pic of 1 full clearence.also did you have every hair on your face removed for your clearance.or only remove 1 of 3 hairs all over your face.and how many hours for the 1st clearance

My friend “FireToFlames”, it is all right about the pictures. If it were not for the 1% of my clients who DO let me use their pictures, I would be sounding like a lunatic talking about things most have never heard of, and almost no one has ever seen. In the end, I do have enough pictures to prove that I can do what I say that I can do.

No, Live1, “FTF” is not the guy on my website, but as he has mentioned, I really can do what I said I could.

james i am despreate to see some pics like my situation mate.i wished i lived in the us i would get u to do my face.so would you really remove every hair on my face in one go then when it all grows back i m finished .so my beard will look like before but thinner evenly.also im half black and my skin on my face hyperpigments will i be ok.and how many hours will i need for the 1 clearance.thanks for helping

Everyone is different. I have had men who needed 7 to 13 hours for one clearance, and others who needed 20 to 35 hours to go from the bottom of the neck, ear to ear, and the upper lip included. It would be hard to tell what you would need without a picture of you to guestimate on.

At any rate, yes, what ever the number of hours would turn out to be, one treatment would give you a stable permanent hair reduction, especially if done in the Summer (as that’s when more hair is growing anyway).

ok so i rang parkside beauly im seeing sharon next tue for consoltation.james could you show a pic of what i could achieve .

hey live,

Sharon is pretty fast but her tech is old so she is limited by it.

She can do more than 5 hairs/min with Blend. She can do more than 10/min with thermolysis using the technique that Alicia described whereby she treats a few hairs one after the other before removing them.

For the beard, she will probably do a combo of both. Blend will probably leave your skin looking pretty good even the same day. Thermolysis usually causes some pin point scabbing to form but it doesn’t last longer than a few days in my experience.

Anyway, I’m sure she will do whatever is best for you, however it will be a long and slow process.

If you want to clear it all in one go you really need someone of James’ calibre… might want to think about going to the states for a week.

Make sure to buy witch hazel and tea tree oil to use afterwards to help the skin heal fast.

thanks guys i think im getting blend,my skin is dark brown so any scabbed areas wll permanently hyperpigment.so i will not do the other 1 you mentioned .my goal is to still be able to grow a full beard like i can now,but look cleaner when shaven,less shadow,but i like not shaving also ,i am a man and we are ment to have beards just not iron beards like mine

i cant go to usa its out of the question ,but if any1 knows some1 like james in the uk i guess i could travel out of london ,but london is very much preffered

Like I said, use aftercare. You should be able to avoid pigmentation issues (temporary is ok, and scabs don’t necessarily leave pigmentation issues).

I have not yet heard of anyone in the UK like James or Dee :frowning:

You will have to put in a lot of hours with Blend.

My sister has brown skin as we are south Asian and thus far, not a single thermolysis scab has left any kind of pigmentation. They just fall off after a few days and the skin looks like it was never touched.

Perhaps give it a try on a discrete area and see what happens?

I don’t think the kind of scabbing I am referring to is what you are imagining.

And as LAgirl has mentioned, we both use tea tree oil and witch hazel a lot and take care of our skin.

how many hours we talking here to slightly thinn it ,estamate pls.any scab spot how ever big or small leaves a permanent mark like cutting my face shaving .but ill do a test under my chin or something .i have no idea about how much it costs ,hope it wont be to pricey

live1,
I wish you would change your mindset about this. I still feel like you should see a specialist like James in the states. If it’s money, save up. If it’s time, skip your yearly vacation and go get treatment instead. This is a very important decision that can seriously change your life.

Things you’ll get by going to a specialist:
-No worry about scars or skin damage
-Knowing that you will absolutely get permanent uniform reduction after just one full clearance
-Quick recovery time of your skin (took me only two days until my face looked “normal”. slightly puffy face, red spots and red marks that looked like ingrown hairs from shaving, but normal.)

Also, like you, I had a heavy beard. I mean I could grow a thick beard, had a shadow right after I shaved, and the hair was growing high on my cheeks. Also my skin’s sensitivity sounds similar to yours as well. Marks staying on the skin for long periods of time, not forever though.

I’m writing this bc I want to help. If it’s not money or time that’s the problem, I guess I can understand. But even then, you shouldn’t let anything stop you.

Good Luck.
(also, its a good idea to do it under your chin first. I’ve read too many stories on here about people’s lives being ruined by electrolysis)

Number of hours depend on numnber of hairs you have to treat. Estimate 10 hairs per minute and you’ll be able to calculate it approximately.

I don’t think you’re understanding the type of scabbing electrolysis creates. It’s not anything like cutting your skin. The skin is not damaged much at all. It’s basically like prickling your skin with a tiny needle. You’ll be able to get a sample treatment from Sharon so just wait and see. It’s basically a tiny little round thing that dries up and falls off within a few days. It doesn’t necessarily happen at all and even if it does it may be only on a few hairs.

fireoflames you have worried me into mabe not having the work done in london.and i dont think they do more than an hour a time.how much would i cost for james to do a clearance on my face .ive never been out of england yet.is it expensive to go to usa sorry for my stupid questions

live1 - please see this post of mine:

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/73805/Can_this_amount_of_hair_be_rem.html#Post73805