Using an IV/anesthetic to relax

Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
#21

Kostik,

My opinion is along the same lines as your results with EMLA. Here it is the most readily available topical anesthetic, but the licocaine concentration is very at low 2.5 % . It does have an additional 2.5 % of another anesthetic in the “caine” family. Together though, my experience is that the people I have worked on that used EMLA did not get the level of numbing necessary to make the treatment coomfortable or less painful. I can get strait 5% lidocaine gel or cream here, and my experience is that this does the job much better than EMLA does, and it’s pretty much my go-to anesthetic.

I am much more curious about the “icing down” process, and how this affected results. Did you happen to notice any more difficulty in the electrologist removing the hair from the follicle? Any more resistance or tugging? Did the electrologist have to adjust their energy levels any higher than they normally do ( which would also affect treatment comfort) ? Did the electrologist have to stop after any period of time and re-ice the arm? I’ve never actually heard of this being done for electrolysis purposes.

Some time ago, I attempted an egg white test on my epilator. No reason to think it was malfunctioning but I wanted the experience so I knew what the expected results would be like. My results, actually, were that I got almost NO egg white cooked onto the probe, even after setting my machine at it’s highest level! Yes, if I put several pulses through there was a THIN coating of cooked egg white on the probe, but not the neat little ball you will see in some of Josepha’s pictures for example. So, what did I do wrong? Well, the answer is, I didnt let the egg white come to room temperature before I did the test, it was refrigerated. Therefore the thermolysis energy had to put out much more heat to overcome this temperature difference in order to coagulate the egg white. With your arm being iced, and the temperature dropped as a result most especially near the surface where it’s most exposed to the ice and the area electrolysios is performed, I’m wondering if your treatment was as effective, since I know you have received mostly thermolysis.

Seana

#22

Seana, they have always used ice on me in all my electrolysis, even when combined with lidocaine shots. So I can’t really compare to electrolysis without ice. I never felt or noticed any tugging. I can’t say anything about the equipment settings, since I don’t know anything about that. It hurts like the devil, but the result is great.

#23

I highly doubt icing causes 5-6 mm of skin depth to drop to temperature of a refrigerated egg white. Even if skin does get cool to that level the circulating blood at 98 degrees warms up the tissue fast.

#24

You are probably correct on the mechanics fenix. I had thought along similar lines. Kostik reports that he has done this on all treatments, including ones where he had licocaine injections . I just havent seen this method ever used, so, I’m curious.

#25

Do you mean that most people do NOT use any ice for electrolysis? I’m surprised. I always get iced before lidocaine shots. In a totally numbed area, of course the electrologist can work efficiently without any other treatment, but in areas which have not been numbed (and unfortunately they abound) she always applies ice packs, even though these only provide a very temporary effect.

On the arms, she applied a lot of ice for a long time, in lieu of lidocaine shots, which really numbed them and, as I explain above, even slowed the nerve impulses from my brain to my fingers.

#26

Ice works, like you said, but if the electrologist invested in some of the newer technology epilators that help tremendously with sensation issues, ice or lidocaine wouldn’t be needed for most areas. I have NEVER had a client need anesthetic help for hair removal on their arms.

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Had a second clearance of both arms yesterday. A couple of pictures of the battlefield attached below. This time I went for lidocaine injections, which numbed most of the area effectively.

I also cleared away a few (hundred) hairs still around the chest, abdomen and back area. The doctor used lidocaine injections in the chest area, but not the back - the hairs were too sparsely located over a large area. She used ice packs as much as possible but the pain was intense: I was groaning and biting on a towel most of the time.

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Some pictures showing the electrolysis machine and needle they use (Yanhee Hospital, Bangkok, Thailand). Also the “operating table” with my lidocaine syringes and other accouterments.

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#29

Good grief! Whatever!

I don’t think all this would be necessary if you they had a different ( more modern) setup. I’m shaking my head in disbelief, but you don’t seem to mind the process and you are getting results, so EURECKA!

Thanks for the pictures!

#30

Unfortunately Yanhee Hospital is the only electrolysis provider in Bangkok. I would dearly love to enjoy pain-free electrolysis, but the results (on the chest / stomach / back) after 14 sessions (around 2 years) have been terrific … I am enormously satisfied with it. Worth every tear shed and penny spent.

#31

Hi, Kostik! How are you? Do you still work on your hair?
I am in Bangkok too and wonder if you found another place for electrolysis or not? I do it myself, but can’t reach all the hairy parts of my body and looking for a place with reliable specialists and machine with blend option