I perform PicoFlash thermolysis everyday of the week. That adds up to thousands and thousands of hairs that are treated with thermolysis. Thermolysis simply and magnifigantly WORKS or I wouldn’t have a business that keeps me hopping every week year after year. What you are reading is old, stale white bread stuff and what James said is all true as well. Thermolysis is harder to do, especially if you can’t see the follicle opening very well. Electrolysis books need to be updated.
Thanks for your confirmation Alicia for the effectiveness of thermolysis working and thank God for hairtell so we can clean up such crazy misinformation.
Effectiveness mostly depends on how good the insertions are. If you find someone who’s good at thermolysis, there is no reason for it to be less effective. The only issue sometimes can be on the hairs that are very deep or curly where blend may be needed. But for the majority of the hairs, thermolysis is great. I’ve had most of my hair removed with microflash thermolysis. I only needed blend for one small area with deeper curlier hairs.
hi sorry for the late reply. hair tell wasn’t working for me, for reason for me.
i’ve had 2 sessions this week which is about an 45mins now and i’m about 3/4 cleared. there was more hair than i thought as there are some really fine hairs that can only be seen up close up but might as well get them think they are new hairs cause they arnt very long and are fine she says.
got a few dark hairs on my shoulders so gonna get them when my back is cleared. doubt that will take long.
think i’m getting addicted, doesnt seem like a proper day unless i get zapped!!!
It is easy to get addicted to electrolysis as long as it is being performed with skill and good equipment. It actually goes pretty fast. When a client comes for one area only, ninety percent of the time, they request that another area be started. It is very common for me to work on 3-5 areas at one time because clearance comes pretty fast for most facial areas and some body areas. That’s what one can do with quality tools today using MicroFlash or PicoFlash thermolysis. Using the more modern forms of electrolysis and better probes, first, full clearances come pretty fast for most clients. It is a happy, hopeful day when I have to say those beautiful words to my client, “I don’t need to see you now except for every 3-4 weeks.”
Go hard at first and then follow those new hair growth cycles as they emerge. You will be so vey happy you did.
i’ve had nearly 3 hours of treatment now, and already i seem to be getting more new hair coming through is this normal?
i have be searching the net and i found a place that has a Apilus Senior II machine. i takes me about an hour to get there in the car but i’m thinking that it will be alot quicker than the machine i’m using at the moment. so i emailed them so i should get a reply on monday as they are shut sundays. but if i can book in for long sessions is this the best idea to change to this machine, as its computerised?
it takes me nearly 30mins to get to my clinic at the moment and she only does short sessions, so travelling and hour to get an hour on a computerised machine should be better right?
You are experiencing normal hair growth cycles. If you can find an electrologist that offers decent speed, using MicroFlash thermolysis, then it may be well worth your effort to travel farther.
What is the downside of sampling another electrologist??? Absolutely nothing! Try this just once and see if there is any difference. When you meet her, let her know that you want longer sessions. She will know what is possible after she works on you and acesses your situation.
i’ve been going to my usual electrologist, because i couldnt get an appointment to a new place till monday but i’m nearly completely cleared on my back with the dark longer hairs. there are a few new patches coming in but about 30 hairs at the most.
anyways i still have a bit of dark hair on my shoulders so therefore i have an hour session on monday with a new clinic and they have a Apilus Senior II. so i’m sure from what i have read that they should easily clear the area in an hour, maybe less as they isn’t a massive amount there, less than 300 hairs easy. and 1 shoulder is alot worse than the other.
i just have a few questions about about microflash and picoflash.
how long does the probe stay in the follicle for? which is faster and most effective of the two?
and are there any questions i should ask at my consultation?
Both are fast, far less than a second per follicle.
Just express your concerns and goals and observe that hygienic measures are being taken, hair is not being tweezed, insertions are not being felt, though some insertions may be felt as no one is perfect. If you think you have about three hundred hairs, those should be easily handled in an hours time or something is wrong. You will not be getting PicoFlash thermolysis with an Apilus Senior II. It will be MicroFlash, which is still awesome. She may choose another modality if she is not a MicroFlasher. I hope she will do MicroFlash thermolysis for you, but it’s her call. You will still get permanent hair removal.
less than a second!!!
that is very fast! when i had my first ever session with blend she was using 3 second per hair!!
i’m crossing my fingers for microflash then.
they advertise doing legs on there website so unless you do microflash, i’m guessing they will be there for years.
i’ve been today for my consultation and a 15min tester session.
when i asked what she used she said dio-something (i forgot), she says its the fastest and most effective. i dont think i felt 1 hair being tugged at all, so must be effective, it was alot faster aswell, but i am alot redder than normal, does this normally happen?
and also she said its not a good idea to have a massive long session on 1 area because of the energy and heat being used, so she said would do about 40mins in 1 bit then 20 in another, and then start from that 20mins the next time.
i dno if this is good or not?
i was happy with this consultation as she actually listened to me and didn’t try and make out that my hair could be removed with laser.
first thing she said was “god it is fine hair isn’t it”
got an hour session booked for wednesday so i will keep you posted. at the speed she going i’m looking forward to it.
That is the best selling point for Thermolysis/Diathermy/MicroFlash/PicoFlash. As fast as the operator can move, thats how fast hair can be removed. One goes from a speed limit of 1 hair a minute, to the door opened to the possibility of 10, 20 or more hairs removed per minute.
If the effectiveness of the treatments stays high, the increased number of hairs removed also outstrips the efficacy of other methods number of hairs permanently removed with just one treatment.
All methods of electrolysis are effective if the electrologist performs with skill.
Marathon sessions can be done, however, it shouldn’t be attempted if the equipment is old and sparky, thus, the preference of many electrologists for using the better brands of computerized epilators. Many electrologists do hours and hours of electrolysis at a time without harming the skin. It is all a matter of setup, skill and stamina. Thin or fine hairs can be hard to see without surgical magnification.
Thermolysis can be faster if one buy an epilator that can do MicroFlash or PicoFlash thermolysis. If she does Thermolysis or Diathermy (same thing), then that may be better for your situation.
Please understand that every modality that falls under the term ‘electrolysis’ is the most effective. Thermolysis, Blend, Galvanic - doesn’t matter and every electrologist should know this and not purport one modality is more effective than the other. The difference lies with skill and time needed per follicle to damage hair growing tissue. I personally lean on thermolysis because much can be accomplished up front to get that precious first clearance. Time to completion is very good as well.
she has a Apilus Senior II machine so i’m guessing she does microflash!
she said in my consultation we will see how this goes and maybe do something different with the settings next time depending on the how your skin reacts.
it looks fine now though. bit red in a few places.
Okay,good. I like her flexibility. It is important to try, observe and then refine strategy for new clients in those beginning sessions. Every client is unique, so we can not be too robotical about treatments. Thanks for the update.
had my first 1 hour session with the microflash.
it was very good, bit sore in some places though.
is it usual for the electrologist to just work all over? this is what mine seemed to do, i came up in loads of red dots some with white heads, i’m guessing she didnt do some areas so much cause of the red dots. she did clear alot though, but hair was still present in the areas she worked in.
Usually an area is cleared and then the next area is cleared, but not everyone has the same approach. Body work usually reveals red dots. That’s okay. White pustules can happen. Did you wash your skin before your appointment? Did she clean off the area before starting? Does she wash her hands and then don gloves, not touching anything that hasn’t been wiped with a disinfectant before the treatment?
White pustules can also result from the current and timing being higher than it needs to be to treat the hair.
Keep the area clean with soap and water. Use witch hazel. Use tea tree oil, sparingly, at nightime - it helps dissolve the pus. White pustules don’t last longer than 24 hours usually. No need to use antibiotic cream for these, by the way, just stick with the above and you will be fine. Expect scabbing for body work. Leave the scab alone.
Discuss your healing outcome with her and ask her if she purposely left some hairs behind.
I can’t stress enough how much the client’s post treatment care is important to what your skin looks like in the days after treatment.
Those clients from out of town who spend days with me, have me sitting on them like a mother hen, but those who come, get treated and leave are on their own recognaisance. Those are the people I often get phone calls asking about swelling, or white bumps, and when I ask them about their post treatment care, they always say, “I didn’t think I needed to do anything, as all looked well when I left the office.”
Of course, it did, since I sent them on their way with a good start at post treatment care, but they have to pick up the ball later that night.
thanks, the red spots dont seem to last for long, maybe a few hours after treatment, i do get scabbing though, this is normal right?
i have a half hour treatment tomorrow and an hour on wednesday.
i had booked a hour on saturday but after about 45mins she stopped and said that she should maybe stop, it was starting to get more painful with time, but she did remove alot of hair.
james and dee when you do a complete back with electro how much are people paying altogether for total removal? i know i have no where near a full back of hair but i just wondered whats the average cost you would say? then i would have a idea of how much i will be spending.
think they are new hairs cause they arnt very long and are fine she says.