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#21

I have accepted it somewhat. It doesn’t stop me from going to school or working.

Its just frustrating that it even happened. I went from bad experiences with LHR to now bad experiences with electrolysis.

Its just one more skin problem added on to a bunch of skin problems.

When I first read about electrolysis, and from the impression I got from reading these forums - I never thought that this would happen to me.

I spent at least 1,000$ and experienced almost full regrowth - and 100% regrowth at the sites of the permanent PIH.

Reading about good results from electrolysis is almost disheartening because it makes me realize I won’t get any results unless I travel to Spain and see Josefa.

And my electrologist has been doing this for at least 25 years or something. They told me I was the worst case of PIH they saw.

I feel scammed.

Sorry for venting.

#22

Many practices have clients sign various papers that are essentially designed for the benefit of the practice. I don’t do this, because my word is my bond: yeah, old fashioned I guess.

But guess what? There is a fundamental understanding in the law that if you pay for something and didn’t get it … you get your money back. It doesn’t matter what you signed. For example, if you go to a restaurant for a nice meal and pay for it … and then get no meal at all … well, that’s the point.

Very quietly, my own lawyer here in town has a pretty good record in recovering funds for cosmetic services that did not produce (even for people in Europe!). The big medical practices are very quick to pay-up when they acknowledge that the work did not produce results; and of course, they want to avoid a costly lawsuit, or worse. A tarnished reputation is much worse than lost money!

In my opinion, if you got 100% regrowth and spent a whopping $1,000 … you got nothing for your money and it should be returned. (Yeah, I’d be “pissed” too.)

When it comes to clients and services, I’m “agnostic.” Whether it’s electrolysis or laser, if it didn’t work get your money back or … sue ‘em!

You can do this yourself in “small claims” court; the cost is usually a nominal filling fee: here it’s $10. Check this service in your jurisdiction. Gather all your documentation. Super great if you have photos of the areas before you had the procedures.

(In my own practice I usually take a photo of the client’s area before we start, AND I send the photo to the client for his/her records. With today’s wonderful cameras, this is a simply bit of insurance. Photos are objective, graphic and reveal the effectiveness of treatments.)

If you are a new client having any hair removal service, take a photo(s) of the area BEFORE work starts! Document time and money, and keep records.

#23

Thanks for the advice, Michael. I wish had that foresight but I didn’t expect this to happen to me. I’m quite gullible when it comes to this stuff because I want to believe these procedures can work for me.

I think they can too, but I’d need someone as good as you or Josefa, etc.

Or perhaps I should have just tried out more electrologists and not just have settled for the one 5 minutes away from me. Kind of had to tho, due to school. Oh well.

Have you ever treated a skin type IV-V before? I know you mentioned you’ve successfully treated a person of Persian/Iranian descent?

#24

I just finished up a super-wonderful kid: both parents are from India. (His mom was precious … I love “concerned mommies!” I love “mommy’s boys” too … having been one myself! And, proud of it too!)

I did his back and shoulders and warned him that “PIH WILL happen!” (I warned his mom too! His dad’s a physician, if I remember correctly.) We’re in contact and he said, “It didn’t happen.” When he returns, for the second “go-around,” I will post some photos (if he says I can).

Frankly, I don’t exactly believe the kid. I’m cannot imagine that PIH didn’t happen! It almost always does with those of us in the “Great Crescent of Hair!”*** (My PIH, by the way, was horrendous! BIG solid patches of brown skin that lasted “forever,” at least a whole year! Hideous!)

(*** The Great Crescent of hair starts in Portugal, sweeps through the Mediterranean … Italy, Greece, etc … into the Middle-East and ends up in India! We should form our own “Empire of the Hair?” Maybe that’s what Alexander had in mind?)

And, don’t “beat yourself up” LDLD … You did the right thing. Remember NOTHING is ever the patients FAULT! Besides, your PIH is going away 100% … I promise you!

#25

And, another thing … (Yeah, I just won’t shut the hell up!)

About knowing that “so and so” is a great electrologist? You don’t know that. You are operating on “belief,” and it’s belief and assumptions that get clients in serious trouble!

You think I’m a good electrologist because I’m here on Hairtell with my big fat mouth? Being on Hairtell is just that: talking (In my case blabbing). Maybe I’m NOT so great? Assume nothing!

Two things get clients in trouble FAST: making belief-based assumptions (based on nothing), and being desperate. It’s like bungee-jumping or sky diving: “pack your own chute.” Slow down, all of you, and take serious time looking at all the options.

I’ll bet nobody has ever heard of Karen Stathis (Santa Barbara), or June Brennan (Santa Ana)? These two women are “out of control excellent electrologists” … and much better than I am. Still, you don’t know about them because they never go on-line.

Make your own list of objective requirements that fit your desires. Decide exactly what you want to achieve and ask the right questions. Look at everybody skeptically, but with a clear, open and objective mind. Make no snap decisions!

#26

I’m still not sure of what I should do. by my discription it might sound like my face looks terrible but its actually all very minor just very visible to me. I have been told that a facial will help to reduce pigment issues along with the use of tretinoin… I’m also unsure of what to do for hair removal. I tried deplitories which led to skin irritation and further discoloration. I do not plan on going back to electrolysis at least not for a very long time. Do you think threading would be my best option if I choose to go with the use of tretinoin? I just don’t know what to do anymore.

#27

Threading is the same as plucking.

BTW: had some really exhausting sessions these days.

#28

That’s okay take your time. I sent you an email, take a look whenever you get some free time. I’m just wondering if my marks are similar to yours or if they’re something you think might go away with time.

#29

Absolutely true! being in Hairtell does not make you better than others, but it says a lot about your level of involvement in issues of concern to the client.

I hate when people see me as an “option” but if it must be so, I hope to become the last option, before than the first, second, or third in a long list.

Having a presence on the Internet (or not) is not something to consider when you need a electrologist, but for better or worse, because of that there are people that spend any time online, others have known that there is something called Electrolysis. A practice that when done by real professionals (not only by charlatans) turns out to be the last and definitely best choice of all.

#30

Hi Josefa,

Can you please check your mail :slight_smile:

Take care

#31

I don’t know why but I nearly died laughing while reading this. i imagine a crazed man waving his fists at the screen and running off while laughing maniacally.

#32

Honey … you’re WAY too easily amused. What the hell are you smoking? … and, give ME some to try!

#33

So I’ve been using honey on my face And emu oil for healing. The discoloration has improved quite a bit but my wrinkled scar right by my smile line has become much deeper. Someone suggested a chemical peel. Has anyone ever had one for scarring or wrinkles? I’m willing to try anything.