Pepper Spots

I’m not sure ekade. But I know the riffi mitt, other mitts/gloves designed especially for exfoliation of the skin and pumice stones are all pretty rough.

I know lots of people who don’t advise using the St. Ives apricot scrub on one’s face because the kernals do more harm than good in terms of scratching the skin.

Yes, I’ve heard it too!

Yeh, so I’m guessing it’s the same on the body if you’re using scrubs with ‘bits’ in them.

I was just told it’s less harsh and damaging to exfoliate on dry skin.

From personal experience, my skin is in much better condition using this routine of dry exfoliation with the riffi mitt and moisturising well after every shower. I used to really ‘go at it’ with a pumice stone many years ago.

This new (for me) method didn’t loosen up my trapped hairs overnight, it took a week or two but when it happened, my skin looked much better than the sore, bumpiness I used to have using the stone.

Interesting… I feel like I remember hearing that I should exfoliate on wet skin while I’m taking a shower. Though I wonder how much difference it really makes in the end?

The amlactin has lactic acid, so although it’s not glycolic acid, they’re both fairly similar. Both are alpha-amino hydroxy acids. Actually, according to this:

It seems as if the lactic acid is a bit milder than the glycolic acid. I’m a little concerned about using harsher compounds on me since I don’t know how I’ll react, and we’re talking about very large areas.

My previous electrologist was adamant that it should only be done on dry skin. As many electrologist’s in the UK, she was also a highly qualified beautician, doing facials, waxing etc.

Anyway, yes lactic is similar but less harsh. You want to look out for the pH of the product if listed when comparing. Which you know much more about than me.

For the last two months, I’ve been using a simple cleanser that contains 10% GLA. It works better than anything else I’ve tried.

I’m linking the body products page of where I bought the cleanser (and a 15% night cream for my sister), so you can see what sort of products might be useful for you if you can find similar locally.

http://www.bravuralondon.com/body.html

If the results from the cleanser and night cream are anything to go by, I’m sure the body products are also very effective.

10% GLA is better than riffi mitt? or are u using both of them?

Hmm that’s an interesting point about dry exfoliation… I actually thought the opposite that dry would cause more irritation :s

Also I had removed this from my original post (cos I’m not sure if every location stocks them) but I get my riffis at Winners for 5 bucks! So check there first lol

Hi, I know this is veryyy late, but I just wanted to ask what the outcome of the pepper spots was…I’m having the same issue right now…would be grateful if you could tell me whether they eventually disappeared or not
Many thanks :slight_smile:

So for everyone curious:

Basically the ones on my lower legs are mostly all gone. The arms have been more stubborn, but when the hair grows back (although thinner), the pepper spots are substantially less noticeable. I’ve mostly been exfoliating everyday with that Dove gentle exfoliate lotion (it was like $5 at Walmart). Not sure how much that helped, but once in a while I also used exfoliating gloves in the shower. It’s a very slow and gradual process, but now that the pepper spots on my legs have gone mostly away, I’m more confident in the remaining pepper spots going away.

I did not try the riffi mitt (mostly because I forgot to order it lol), but it’s definitely something I’d give a try

Thanks for the reply. I was beginning to think they’d be there forever lol. You’ve given me hope. May order the mitt now :wink:

I’ve just glanced over these posts regarding “pepper spots.” I have a couple questions.

First, what do you think these “pepper spots” are?

Second, why are you scrubbing the hell out of your skin and what, exactly, are you exfoliating or trying to achieve?

I suppose I’m asking: what are these spots and what do you think you are doing to them?

  1. “These are called “Bundelhaar,” (German: bundle of hairs.) These arise from active sebaceous glands.” "There is so much “sticky” sebum that the shedding hair is held in place; eventually you get a build-up of these shedding hairs that look like a large “blackhead.” "

  2. “There are peel off products that grab the tops of the Bundelhaar and pull them out.” “If you can get “micro-dermabrasion” crystals, these work really well.” “They work great to clean and “exfoliate” your face.”

Oh I see! I was thinking RED pepper (and thought you were treating angiogenesis).

Actually Bundelhaar is typically found on “oily” areas, e.g., the nose. I wonder if laser-caused “black pepper” would actually qualify as “Bundelhaar” … maybe a new definition? I’m assuming your “black spots” are desiccated remnants of a lasered hair (not the classic definition)?

Bundelhaaren are nicely treated with the methods you describe.

Guessed you missed the reference :wink:

That’s funny! (I checked thru this thread and did not see my reference. But then, I hate digging thru “threads.”)

Still, most folks in this thread are talking about laser-induced post-treatment remnant “pepper spots.” I would assume these are basically carbon “plugs” of some sort; so not “Bundelhaar” (essentially a bundle of hairs.)

What about a new name for those “pepper spots?” Any suggestions? A name that also explains the thing would be excellent. Something like: laser-remnant, or carbon plug?

I have some thoughts on this, but since I have never had these myself, my thinking would only be speculation.

Is the riffi mitt used wet or dry. Just ordered one. Can’t wait. Lol

Very random & unsubstantiated thoughts on “pepper spots” …

We all remember the kid in Grade School that got a permanent mark from some kid poking him with a pencil? The pencil “lead” of course is graphite in some form of clay binder/matrix.

At any rate, once the graphite is deposited at a low enough layer of the skin (junction of the sub-dermis and dermis), this becomes a well-known mark called a tattoo!

The remnant of the lasered hair is probably carbon of some sort? If a large enough hair were lasered and left a carbon deposit at just the right skin layer … and the skin healed-over perfectly … would this also leave a virtual tattoo?

I do not know at all; as I said this is supposition. However, if you actually do have a tattoo-like deposit that deep in the skin, no amount of scrubbing is going to remove it. There could be, however, other options. Presumably your own body will “gobble up” the (organic) carbon and there could be ways to encourage this process. I can think of a few ways.

Pepper spots are hairs that have been fried/vaporized by heat from a laser. They’re not like a tattoo because they exist in a hair follicle that should not heal over. I assume that in some cases, the follicle may tighten towards the outside and prevent the thicker hair remnant from slipping out. Most people report them falling out on their own eventually.

I’ve heard of people squeezing them out but that isn’t good for the skin. I wouldn’t expect exfoliation to help other than maybe you occasionally catch a hair and pull it out. It might help open the follicles? I haven’t really researched removal methods so I’m just guessing. Applying heat or ‘drawing salve’ for pimples might help?