My LHR history (male) / Need help

The friction caused by the cast caused the body to protect the skin by producing hair. Sometimes if left alone, it doesn’t return after it goes through its growth cycles. Sometimes it needs treatment. It’s a wait and see what happens.

Shaving according to my friends does make hair grow thicker. It makes sense too since the hair has been around since we were children and got longer and thicker as we grew older, so the top half of the hair is thinner than the bottom half. The old hair is shaped like a cone while the new hair will be shaped like a cylinder.

I agree with you. Same length cylinder has more volume than cone. So, when you look at grown hair after shaving it looks thicker, and in fact it is thicker. Trimming has the same effect. In the past, once I trimmed my arm hairs down to 2 mm length, and I let them grow to the full length. At the end, my arm looked considerably hairier than before. Also, I think the difference is more obvious if you have coarse hair, and it is less obvious if you have fine hair.

Is this process reversible? If an area of the body is patchy, I want to grow back the hair so it’ll look more even. I guess not since it’s permanent.

I wish it to be reversible as I don’t like my patchy results.

rsuryase:
Did you do your back? I notice my arm hair is thicker than my back hair. How about your pubic hair, are you going to reduce it? It’s the thickest of all body hair, I think.

If you read the earlier posts on this thread you will see I did my back. My last treatment was 1.5 months ago. So, I am not posting any picture.

Pubic hair? No, not now.

The hair does not grow back thicker. You are correct in that after you shave, the hair is blunt at the tip which makes it appear thicker.

Only forced epilation causes hair to grow back thicker and stronger. Waxing, Threading, Tweezing. All of these epilation methods cause trauma at the site, blood rushes to the site to heal the area. This extra nourishment causes the hair to rebuild itself stronger/thicker. You witness this when you see the skin turn red after waxing/threading/tweezing.

Yes, I’ll state once again. Yes, the part of the shaft where you cut the hair IS thicker. But once it grows back out, it’s not any different. So, shaving DOESN’T make the hair thicker. It doesn’t change its structure.

Yes, I’ll state once again. Yes, the part of the shaft where you cut the hair IS thicker. But once it grows back out, it’s not any different. So, shaving DOESN’T make the hair thicker. It doesn’t change its structure.

Agree with you, but want to underline one point:

Once you shave a hair, then the tip of the hair is blunt and thicker than before. After the hair grows to full length, the part of the hair closer to the root has the same thickness as before, however because the tip is blunt this will help constitute a cylindrical shape, then hair will include much substance (keratin, whatever the hair is made of) and this will make the hair look thicker. I think this way by assuming after shaving the hair reaches its original length. Even the hair reaches 4/5 of its original length (which is very likely) it still looks thicker.

“Shaving does not change hair structure.” Agreed. However, although not changing the hair structure, it changes the way hair looks. If it doesn’t then we should be able to bring the back the its original condition. Are we? With conventional methods you have limited choices: You shave again, you wax or etc. Shaving does not help. Waxing in addition, as most of the people agree, makes the hair grow back thicker. What else can we try? I don’t know, we can’t just wait for the hair cycle come to an end after a fairly long time so a new hair can come into existence with a genuine narrowed down tip. It does not sound practical to me. So my conclusion is, shaving sure changes something for good.

You are correct. It’s just incorrect to state it the way it’s stated. The hair will shed within a feww weeks after it’s shaved anyway. So technically, it won’t be “thicker” for too long. It will shed and what will remain is the NEW hair from the next growth phase which is thin at the ends again. So within a few weeks (2-4), it will be back to normal.

Waxing is an option that makes the hair grow out with a thin tip again. On some areas for some people, it can stimulate the hair to become more coarse overtime due to the blood flow to the area to repair the follicle. On others, it doesn’t change though.

The hair will shed within a feww weeks after it’s shaved anyway.

If true, this is really interesting stuff. Do we have any real life cases here? Anyone?

I’m talking about hair cycles. Hair grows in cycles. Once the cycle is finished, it sheds. That’s what I’m talking about.

Ok, I’ll say a couple of things you are not likely to enjoy. First of all, I don’t want to generalize anything, so don’t get me wrong.

From time to time, on these boards, you are arguing with people who introduce themselves as literate persons on LHR. Sometimes when you don’t like what they say, you find a minor mistake (giving wrong information etc.) they made earlier and taking advantage of that you are accusing them being unlearned. Here, you fall into the same pit fall.

Please, pay more attention to what you wrote. You are very prolific as the leading poster on this site. But being prolific does not necessarily mean high quality production. If the subject matter is ‘information’ then it is more important to give concise but correct information than to long but semi-correct may-be-misleading information. If I were you I’d think a little bit more about what I’d write. These are just my recommendations.

Majority of scientific community believes that, body hair stays in anagen phase from 2 to 6 months and then rests in telogen phase much more than scalp hair’s telogen phase which is around 100 days. The duration of this telogen phase may even start from 1 year and go up to years. So, how does “a few weeks” compare to years?

I think the main problem here is that you are new to the forum and I have been here for a while. It has taken us quite a while to get to a point where there is no misinformation and most of the consumers are getting great results following our unbiased advice, which is basically unavailable elsewhere - at the expense of generous people’s free time at no cost to them.

Now, we’ve had numerous discussions on various subjects with various professionals who are well-respected in the industry, including this on this specific topic (so technically you can run a search and find answers to all your questions). This isn’t a new topic for me - it is for you. At the same time, you ask questions, but assume that you already know everything including the answer to your own question. So I’ll reply to this and leave you to explore your hair removal journey on your own.

I don’t know where you’re getting your information, but I’ll post a link for you with a helpful chart and will leave it at that. What you’ve forgotten in your analysis that I’m trying to correct is how much hair is in anagen at any given time. And we’re not talking about scalp hair here, an area which has a very different cycle from the rest of the body and is almost never at question here.

http://www.laserspagroup.com/q1.htm

p.s. I don’t argue with any literate people. I (and others like Choice, Dee, etc) correct misinformation which has taken us years to get rid of. The information we have hasn’t been decided by one or two people. It’s been discussed at conferences, in professional journals, and other mediums where there is no bias from someone who’s making money off of the information they provide. Btw, just because someone claims they are something or know something doesn’t mean they are or do. If you stick around here for a few years like I have or even follow various parts of this forum, you will see that (I believe you’re referring to one specific person who’s said about 10 different things about themselves just this week. If you read their other posts in the other threads on the forum, you’ll see why the whole thing is suspicious and I’m not the only one here who’s under that impression). It’s an internet forum. Anyone can post anything without any proof.

Oh, please, you are aiming the gun at yourself. Look at what you wrote. It makes me think you have a insufficient understanding of basic science or math. May I ask you what branch you hold a degree in?

At the same time, you ask questions, but assume that you already know everything including the answer to your own question.

What? This is absurd. I am not going to argue.

I don’t know where you’re getting your information, but I’ll post a link for you with a helpful chart and will leave it at that.

Oh, I advise you to go and study little math. From your precious chart:

>> Area | Telogen | Anagen | Telogen | Anagen | Density | Follicle
>> … | % | % | duration | duration | hair/cm2 | depth
>> Arm | 80% | 20% | 18 weeks | 13 weeks | 80 | 2 – 4.5 mm

Can you explain me how on earth we only have 1 hair in anagen phase corresponding to 4 hairs in telegon phase and at the same time we have comparable anagen and telogen phases; 13 weeks to 18 weeks. The ratio should be around 1/4, NOT 13/18. I am afraid but you are incapable of doing very simple analysis. Therefore you have to believe what people tell you, I don’t blame you, but at least try to choose more credible resources.

What you’ve forgotten in your analysis that I’m trying to correct is how much hair is in anagen at any given time.

And, this is just hilarious. Ok, your chart says %20 for arms. So, I was right when I was saying 2-6 months anagen phase to 6months-years telogen phase.

This isn’t a new topic for me

I see. You made yourself believe in wrong information so earlier that you can’t cross boundaries of your bias wall and can’t accept new input.

And we’re not talking about scalp hair here, an area which has a very different cycle from the rest of the body and is almost never at question here.

Who talked about scalp hair here? Are you really paying attention reading my posts. I just made a comparison for telogen phase referring scalp hair.

I believe you’re referring to one specific person who’s said about 10 different things about themselves just this week

No, I actually read pretty good deal of your posts, and it’s not just one person.

p.s. I don’t argue with any literate people. I (and others like Choice, Dee, etc) correct misinformation which has taken us years to get rid of.

I think you should review what you label as misinformation.

Stop feeding the troll!

Can we get back to the topic? How about hair transplant? If you can transplant hair on the head, can you transplant hair onto the rest of the body like arms, leg?

pdeco1 - that was nasty, unnecessary and unwarrented. I hope someone removes both the comment and you

The definition of troll on a forum is someone who intentionally provokes other posters into heated arguments. Not feeding the troll means to ignore the trolls posts, and eventually the troll will go away.

The comment was not aimed at anyone’s appearance.

OOps - sorry! A troll is something very different in the UK.

I knew that you were thinking of something else! All the new lingo!

Being a “lurker” used to be very bad, but on the internet it’s ok to lurk!

Can we get back to the topic? How about hair transplant? If you can transplant hair on the head, can you transplant hair onto the rest of the body like arms, leg?

Technically, yes. Is it practical? Not really.