Is that as a result of laser or do you think previous waxing contributed to it?
I always had it, so neither. It’s just very, very fine hairs that don’t have the strength to grow straight out. They coil up and are caught in skin, so you get a little bump. As I said, if I exfloliate properly and never wear anything tight, they would probably go away. Right now, I’m wearing skin coloured knee highs - I need to stop that if I want to solve this.
In your case stoppit, to rid yourself of these trapped hairs, thermolysis, specifically, a modern flash thermolysis mode could whiz through those leftover hairs. The electrologist can gently lift up the trapped hair and treat it. If my clients are good candidates for laser on their lower leg, I recommend laser, but they ALL eventually come back for total removal of the weak hairs that are left that laser cannot affect. Being that you already educated yourself on all this, I’m sure you know what I am saying.
You will not have to exfoliate ever again or limit what your wear if you just get these fine hairs off once and for all. Laser results is less impressive on the thigh area, so most report.
Smooth legs are the bomb! I’ve enjoyed mine for 30++ years. THe people at Gilette don’t like me very much, since I have no need to purchase their razors.
Dee
Thanks Dee.
Yup, that’s why I asked my electrologist to have a look at them yesterday so she could advise me on the best course of action. She suggested thermolysis too.
Right now I’ve just started thermolysis on the hair in the middle of my chest (between breasts) as that is more pressing. As well as the hair issue, I’m prone to spots here and my electrologist believes they are mainly due to blocked follicles.
Hopefully I will eventually move on to finish the legs, including the thighs!
If I had money to burn, I would go back for one last Laser treatment on the front thigh as there are still some hairs that I know Laser could treat. But they are sparse and mixed in with finer hairs so I would rather wait and have them finished off with electrolysis 
Front right thigh, 16 weeks post treatment #4 on this area.
I would say I have an 85% reduction. My thighs used to be very hairy with coarse hair. I will finish off the rest with electrolysis when I can afford it!
I still have some scars that fading but my skin is looking SO much better than when I started. I had a lot of blemishes from deep ingrown hairs on the front of my thighs from regular waxing.
Thanks for great feedback as usual!
Hi everyone,
I’m really mad so I need to vent.
Whilst I am happy with my treatments at RM there have been some things that have made me really angry.
At the end of March, I took my cousin and sister to the Croydon branch for a consultation and test patches. Suffice to say that I was sufficiently unhappy with the level of treatment just at the consultation that I decided it would be better for them to join me at the Oxford Circus branch.
So, I booked in treatment for my cousin (underarms) along with my last 3/4 arm treatment with my regular tech. That seems to have gone well as she had full shedding. It’s now 4.5 weeks and she’s enjoying the hair free period.
For my sister, given that she is darker than me, we decided we wanted to be absolutely sure about the settings and wait for shedding. Then she would have the areas waxed and the treatment booked in for when the growth comes through after that.
But she got rubbish shedding; just about noticeable on underarms, bikini and legs - meaning that not all the treated hair shed.
On her forearm, the hair never shed! I checked it twice a week and the hair was just not coming out. It seems to be ‘stuck’ - it’s not growing nor falling out.
So the other day I called them, explained this and booked in for new test patches at the Oxford Circus branch. That was supposed to be today. My sister just called me to say that the tech (a different one from my usual) said that she ‘has had excellent results’. I called them directly and asked to speak with her, basically just spent 5 mins arguing with her and it ended by her saying if we’re not happy with these results than Laser isn’t for her. I mean what on earth??
She told me the hair on her arms was the new growth coming in. I was like ‘how is that possible given that it didn’t shed?’. Clearly there was no use talking to this woman who doesn’t even understand what she’s talking about.
Anyway, I eventually ended the convo and called my sister back who said she had been very rude from the start when my sister told her that “my sister doesn’t think that my test patches have shed properly” to which she replied “your sister doesn’t know what she’s talking about”.
I will still probably book my sister in for underarm + bikini with my usual tech. And on that day ask her to redo the test patches on the other areas.
But I’m so angry with this girl. I’ve had treatment from her once before and was not happy as I was left with lots of missed patches. She talked a lot during my treatment and it was mostly rubbish in regards to the LHR process.
I don’t know if I should complain to the manager or have a quiet word with my tech and convince her to go higher with my sister settings etc.
So anyone going to RM Oxford Circus - avoid Sarah!!
Hair being “stuck” is not usually a bad sign as long as it’s not growing. I get that too sometimes. But this whole story sounds just awful! How frustrating! I would complain to the manager if you think the manager will be receptive to your complaints. If this lady has had complaints before, then he might start taking it seriously if you tell him she was rude to you too. I would also have a quiet word with your other tech first and get her advice if you trust her.
Hey MPK, thanks for your post.
Yea, it hasn’t really grown. But she could have given me/my sister a reason. On the phone to me she said they were ‘excellent results’, which I doubt.
Do you know why this happens? What will happen in the next few weeks? Will they get pushed out by the next cycle?
When I called asking for the test patches to be redone, I said I wanted this as I wanted to make sure the settings were optimal and not too low. They were fine about booking her in for a slot so I don’t understand the fuss on the day.
When my sister got home, we spoke about it properly. Apparently this Sarah girl was contradicting herself all over the place. First she said that it doesn’t seem to have fallen out and then she was saying it’s the new growth coming through. Then she said that the settings need to be higher where the hair is more coarse! When my sister said that she wasn’t very happy that the consultation tech had done the first test patch on a visible part of her forearm (near the front), her response was “oh, if you were that worried about it, you should have had a treatment on your whole arm the next day”. ??? Ridiculous.
Then she insinuated that my sister was trying to get treatment in the guise of test patches. Yes, like she really wants random bald spots (she doesn’t do any hair removal on her arms).
Sounds completely like the one treatment that I had with her. She was getting all the stuff she had learnt jumbled up as she didn’t really understand it.
Anyway, I really don’t know what to do. On one hand I think I should let it go and go with my usual tech who I’m quite sure will be responsive to feedback about settings. On the other hand, I really want to complain about this tech but that might effect the way they treat us.
Unfortunately, I have not heard glowing things about any other clinics, otherwise I’d dump this one right now. At the end of the day, they are all after your money, wanting you to sign up for courses, not using higher settings in the beginning so you don’t need as many treatments, not going over missed patches etc etc.
My sister also commented that since the first day she went for electrolysis, she has been really happy and positive about her electro treatment - all the ladies at that salon are really lovely and friendly. She’s really not feeling the same in regards to Laser.
I hear you. I’ve had a problem with fighting with laser techs too. I don’t know why. If you’re worried it will affect your treatment, then maybe file your complaint after the treatment course. It won’t be anytime soon, and you’ll probably just prefer to let it go by then honestly, but there’s not much else you can do if you suspect it will cause more problems.
How long is the hair that is stuck? When I get them, they are pepperspots and are never longer than 2 days worth of stubble. I attribute it to the fact that the hairs are too thick, and being totally cooked makes them quite inflexible so they can’t wiggle out of the follicle. I also wouldn’t be surprised if being so charred caused them to stick to the seared flesh of the follicle (the way burnt cookies will stick to the pan).
On me, they don’t ever shed. The just slowly wear away as the skin cells turn-over. They are usually still there by the time I have my next treatment, but then they sort of burn away the second time around.
Yeh, it looks like that’s the way it will go.
The hair is exactly as you describe, which is what concerned me. I’m so used to seeing the hair coming out slowly over about two weeks. We have gently poked these hairs with tweezers; they don’t want to budge.
It’s another thing to consider. Does she want to go around with speckley arms for weeks and weeks until the next treatment? We wanted to see how the test patch looks when the next cycle comes through because I know with waxing it looked gross on me - patchy and sticking up hairs because of distorted follicles.
Anyway, so how to you tell when to go for your next treatment? If there are these burnt hairs in the follicles, how does the next cycle come through for you to able to see that it “looks like it’s time for the next treatment now”?
I don’t know very much about laser but it’s been over seven weeks for me and I still had pepperspots, although very few, and I thought I had good shedding but what it looks like is that ny hair didn’t grow until just now, because my hair still looks the same and I know I have odd very coarse laser-worthy hairs which did shed, but there are still some dark hairs that I thing should be able to slide out but they don’t. Or maybe there’s nothing wrong with me.
I think your sister should just stick to your tech, otherwise we could always go on a big lookout for other clinics.
Pepperspots aren’t a bad thing, but they do look kinda ugly and they are a b*tch to shave over. 
The good news is that you get them less and less a with each treatment. The first treatment is the worst, but by the fourth treatment you may not get any at all.
Just ignore them when determining if you have enough hair for a new treatment. The new hair will grow in the other follicles in the surrounding area (the follicles that are blocked are already dead if the treatment went well, so they aren’t blocking any new hair). I know it LOOKS like they must be in every follicle, but they aren’t and the new hair will come in just fine around the pepperspots(unfortunately).
If she got that much pepperspotting, then the treatment (in those spots) probably worked well, so there’s a little good news for you.
Lol! Thanks so much Kitty. Yes, she has very thick hairs and large follicles, it’s very obvious that it’s every treated follicle that has a stubbly bit stuck in it.
Maybe I will take a picture.
You know it would have been fine if the tech knew enough to give me the same info you just did.
I think I will start her first arm treatment along with underarm and bikini coz that spot is looking really ugly!
Excellent progress. Similar story to mine.
The sides of your sister’s eyebrows looks really good and even. One side of mine looks like she took a hair out from the middle, so it doesn’t join up correctly. I think I’m going to put a stop to removing hair from the sides now, which is part of the main part of the eyebrow.
I was also thinking, instead I’ll work on on top of the eyebrow where there’s a lot of little hairs, but I think I need someone to shape them as it is risky. Even under the eyebrows, on the side, I feel hesitant about now.
Pepperspots are sometimes unavoidable. They happen more often on finer hair. Legs often experience them. As long as the hair is not growing is usual, you are fine and the hair was affected.
Hi stoppit,
Have you ever had an appointment with Sameerah or do you just stick with one person?
I called and realised I didn’t have who I had for consultation, then changed my appointment for two weeks time because I’m not sure what the others are like.
I used to see Clare before she went on her travels. I really liked her so I asked her to recommend me another tech for while she was away. One time when I couldn’t get an appointment with her, I had one with Sara (which was bad) so I decided to stick to whoever she recommended.
Since she left, I have been seeing Tamzin, who is also very good. For example, when I had my last arm treatment I felt the settings were low (not hurting very much) so I asked her to push them up and she did. I also called her the other day to make sure she test patched higher for next time (I thought she might not have as higher = the settings that gave me the mild burn thingy on the test patch) - she was very responsive and gave me all the settings.
Personally, I think these things should be ‘normal’ but they aren’t. Sara who is not very smart, seems to think her clients aren’t either and just questioned why I needed to know settings etc.
I had Tamzin for the consultation and I really liked her. I almost forgot to mention I wanted her, but then found out she is booked. The clinic are funny though, straight away they inform me of peak times and I had to question them about off peak times which are earlier in the day, only then do they inform otherwise they were just telling me the available time is at 3 or something.
She is really booked as she comes in at 11 so my appointment is in two weeks time. I’m thinking I should book an appointment in advance now for other areas too. I don’t want to delay it anymore as I feel if I carry this on, I feel better too.
If only Parkside did laser too.
Yes, you need to book in advance if you want to get an off-peak slot. I book about 2-3 weeks in advance and then don’t have a problem.
Like for my arms, by week 8-9 I could tell that by week 11 the hair would be looking pretty full, so I called to make an app for then.
For underarms, about 8 weeks is usual for the 2nd treatment.