I just wanted to share this with everyone. I went to the doctor today today for something else, and when i was about to leave, i asked him to prescribe LMX for my electrolysis treatments. He lloked at me funny, and asked what it is again that i am asking about.I said i need Lidocain, 4 or 5 %, or any other kind numbing cream, since he looked confused to me.
He went out to check it, as he said, then he came back in, and he told me he never heard of it and therefore he wont prescribe it. I was stuned and on a verge of tears. It sounded inconsiderate, but unworth the argument. I told him its very comon, mostly used for burns and available to buy in drug stores, only not that strong. He noded and left.
I have burn jel that i bought in CVS pharmacy but its only 2.9 % lidocaine. Since i m planing on doing longer treatment next time, ill have to buy LMX online. Luckily its only under 10 bucks. And thats what happened to me with my doctor.
BTW he`s one of the best doctors. Got his diploma back in 74 in Ireland…Not that matters to me, since he never heard of lidocaine…
Sanny;
I am certain your doctor knows what lidocaine is, but is probably not familiar with the brand name of LMX. I think it is great that he wants to know what a product is before prescribing a medication.
A side note from myself:
I did a search the other day on lidocaine from the riteaid webpage, and found a product that has 9.9% lidocaine. I thought the maximum dosage one could get over the counter. This product is over the counter with 9.9% lidocaine base.
This product is not meant however for general body use, but is marketed to desensitize the male organ to prolong intercourse.
The price also seems to me to be more economical than LMX and other 5% lidocaine products like betacaine.
I am wondering if anyone else on here as noticed this product with that much lidocaine concentration. This comes with a spray applicator and works within 5 minutes.
I wouldn’t let the fact that your doctor didn’t know about LMX make you think he isn’t knowlegdible. LMX does not require a prescription. You can get it yourself. I don’t blame him for hesitating if he hasn’t heard of this product. Heck, I can’t even believe that a local doctor here won’t prescibed EMLA for one of my clients under the nose treatment. This doctor knows me well and I will call her shortly and ask her some questions.
So, in the meantime, I have ordered some LMX on my clients behalf until I can reassure this doctor about the EMLA issue.
Dee
Marthajoy,
I just bought some of the product you are talking about. I have yet to compare it to my regular topical though. I’ll let you know.
Jes
Is this product a cream? Can you provide a name?
Here is the URL to the online product information page:
The Name is Sliquid Stay. I have not had any reason to purchase this product yet, so I am just passing along what I found on the web.
The product is a spray, and I would probably suggest that one spray onto a paper towel and then apply gently, while wearing gloves, or your hands will probably also get very numb.
Well, this stuff is news to me. I guess if we use ano-rectal creams (LMX and EMLA) for electrolysis and laser then I guess we can use a male desensitizer spray,too.
If anyone actually uses Sliquid Stay for electrolysis, DO GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK, okay???
Dee
I use a similar spray. Texas Electrolysis Supply was selling “Stud 100” but the last time I ordered they sent “Premjact.” Seems to be the same product, same packaging, different name. Recently another electrologist told me she buys it by the case from the US distributor and saves quite a bit.
I spray it on a cotton ball. It works much faster, but I can’t definitively say better than LMX.
I now recall seeing “Stud 100” in one of the electrolysis catalogs, but never knew at the time it was originally intended for the one-minute man. Thanks, Choice. I bought some lidocaine spray 4% years ago from Sally’s Beauty Supply that could be used for pre-waxing years ago. It did poo. Not impressed.
Some clinical studies show that Ametop is better than EMLA. Acts quicker to numb the skin and provides anesthesia for 4-6 hours and doesn’t cause vasoconstriction like EMLA.
From our older sister site, hairfacts, for those interested in a nice summary of numbing options here’s a link:
http://www.hairfacts.com/tips/pain/painbuy.html
dee
This is from the Texas Electrolysis online catalog:
Item: Image: Description: Price:
PremJact Topical Anesthetic Spray - 9.6% Lidocaine - 7/16 oz.
Metered Spray
$ 12.00
Dee
Well, I guess I have decided to try and see how Sliquid Stay works.
I just ordered 3 oz for $32.97 from drugstore.com
100 grams of betacaine cost about $90, so this is quite a savings if it works. Anyway, 3 oz qualified for free shipping.
I want to add a little addition about Lidocaine Toxicity if I may.
The following was found on Web MD.
Without epinephrine, the maximum safe dose is approximately 3-5 milligrams per kilogram of weight. So a 70kg adult should receive no more than 300 mg or 30ml of a 1% solution.
By this formula, one can see that the max amount that is safe would be 3ml of a 10% solution. Yes, this is a huge amount for what we are talking about, but do not just go spreading this stuff crazy all over the body.
Anyone using much at all should know all about lidocaine.
It is a local anesthetic and can be used for problems with heart rhythmic problems. It effects the nerves axon sodium channels preventing depolarization. Thus it affects the heart and can even stop it from working. It is commonly used for blocking nerves pulses. Plasma levels are usually 3-5 micrograms per milliliter. Toxicity occurs at 6 micrograms per milliliter and above.
Some medications will also affect its interaction: so please anyone using any quantity of this substance, please find out about Lidocaine Toxicity.
Like I said, would be much better if more people in the industry invested in better equipment and education, and less in numbing drugs.
I am in agreement. There has been only a fractional percentage of clients in my practice who need to add the extra expense and bother of topical anesthetics before having a treatment. It is due to having better tools used with skill, of course. Good strategies really pay off for client and practitioner.